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Linda
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 8:11 am:   Print Post

I'm with Zoe, M. Graham's PV19 - but - how can anyone use just one red with PR101 in existence?
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Zoe
Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 10:13 am:   Print Post

Reviving "Red" as I just did another colour chart of the red/violet family (while thinking of that Q-Coral (lol).

I really like the look and feel of Graham's Naphthol Red (pr112) perhaps somewhat more on the blue side than the beautiful Scarlet Lake (pr188). And on the Pv side, I think I'd vote for Grahams Q-Rose (pv19) over the others in this family.

So, again, I can't have ONE but seem to want several or more :)

I find our preferences are often biased toward our painting or life style. I've clearly noticed that I have a preference for autumn colours!
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John Preston
Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2004 - 1:57 pm:   Print Post

VJo,
It means the color isn't lightfast and will eventually fade. Most manufacturers put lightfastness ratings on the tube or at least in their literature.
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VJo
Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2004 - 1:18 pm:   Print Post

I am an absolute rookie in the world of watercolour and am enjoying all the information on mixing color. However, could someone please explain to me the meaning of a "fugitive" colour so I will know what to look for.
Thanks.
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jj
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 12:13 pm:   Print Post

Thank you Robert! I'll have to try these. I do lean towards using red violets more often; ( I use alot of purples in my painting) which is why I was using alizarin. But every now and then we all have to break out of a rut, huh? I also think it is important to have a warm and cool version of each primary for a good palette. So I will have to try both of these. Thank you for your suggestions.
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Robert
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 7:04 am:   Print Post

JJ, you seem to be actively seeking to revise your reds. I gave a lot of suggestions below so let me give you what I would go. I would get Daler-Rowney Vermilion Hue, an orange red,
and Rembrandt Permanent Red Violet, a violet Red.
These two are great mixers with yellows and blues and mixed with each other in different proportions will give you any red in between their 2 hues. They are also the most beautiful and brilliant of their categories among the choices, IMHO. These 2 are both clear winners, to me.
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jj
Posted on Monday, April 26, 2004 - 6:34 pm:   Print Post

Kukana - I really like your bright colors! Another winner! I'll have to try some of these reds mentioned. I did know about the fugitive qualities of alizarin - I guess I'll have to find a replacement that I like. Some of these suggestions sound good.
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Robert
Posted on Monday, April 26, 2004 - 6:38 am:   Print Post

Here 's my (expanded) post without typos--sorry 'bout that:

Based upon my own experiene sampling paint, I prefer W/N Cadmium Scarlet or Maimeriblu Cadmium Red Light.
The very best scarlet that is non-Cadmium is in my opinion Vermillion Hue by Daler-Rowney. It is a single pigment semi-transparent great mixer and wonderful hue.
Scarlet is an orange red. DO NOT use Holbein Scarlet Lake as it is quite fugitive. It is also very neon and unnatural. The W/N is better. Scarlet Lake is a meaningless name because each company uses a different pigment. I'm not sure by your post that you are aware that Alizarin Crimson is quite fugitive. You might try a quinacridone such as permanent magenta (W/N, Daler-Rowney))or permanent red violet (Van Gogh and Rembrandt)or Primary Magenta (maimeriblu). This is a bluish-red but mixes wonderfully.

A medium red that works well is Winsor Red (Sandal Red-Maimeriblu).
Mix this or Daler-Rowney Vermillion Hue with on of the Quinacridone violets (Permanent Magenta)and you get the current convienance mix W/N Alizarin Crimson Permanent (or Crimson Lake (Maimeriblu).
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Kukana
Posted on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 4:52 pm:   Print Post

I love WN Scarelt lake too. i just did a piece with it and Im very happy with the vibrancy.
Her it is:
no regrets
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Robert
Posted on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 2:00 pm:   Print Post

Scarlet in orange red. DO NOT use Holbein sarlet lake as it is bquite fugitive. The W/N is better. Scarlet Lake is a meaningless name becasue each company's uses different pigment. I'm not sure by youyr post that you are aware that Alizarin Crimson is quite fugitive. You might try a quinacridone such as permanent magenta (W/N). This is a very bluish red but mixes wonderfully. A medium red that works well is Winsor Red.
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jandrle
Posted on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 9:52 am:   Print Post

I should try some of these... when I use red I
am usually unhappy with it... except Alizarin...
then I feel guilty because it is fugitive.

Had a red once that I loved.

I never used to pay attention to the names of
my colors then had a horrible time replacing
paints. Started saving even empty tubes once I
realized I was serious about painting...

But have never been happy with the color red.
The cadmiums have never worked for me.

I am going to try scarlet lake... is it an orange
red or a blue red?
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jj
Posted on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 5:28 pm:   Print Post

I probably use alizarin the most- but I also like the bit brighter permanent rose or quin rose.
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Dake
Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 11:14 pm:   Print Post

Just one red, I'd choose W&N scarlet lake. It produces a very attractive range of violets when mixed with cobalt or ultramarine. It granulates well also. It makes a fine fresh flesh tone when mixed with raw sienna. It has a similar hue to cad red but is more transparent.
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John Preston
Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 5:13 pm:   Print Post

Hmmm...seems like I use Alizarin or one of many PV19 substitutes more than my warmer red (Grumbacher Vermillion Hue).You can approximate a warm red with the addition of yellow but a warm red is hard to cool.
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jj
Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 12:52 pm:   Print Post

If you had just one red on your palette, which one would you choose and why?

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