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ebandit
Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 8:57 am:   Print Post

I use Masa and "glue it to watercolor paper" with Golden acrylic medium. I usually wet it good, wad it up, straighten it back out and then glue it down. Let dry and paint away
http://www.geneblack.com
Click on Abstract Gallery, then find Masabi
I typically use acrylic but an learning watercolor. Gene
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carol
Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 11:35 am:   Print Post

i think that the paper is to fragile, and would pull apart. i'd take a scrap piece and try it first.
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Maureen DeRonge
Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 1:44 pm:   Print Post

When painting on Masa Paper, is it possible to use Miskit to block out flowers to be left white
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Anonymous
Posted on Thursday, April 8, 2004 - 5:04 pm:   Print Post

When painting on masa paper with watercolour, after applying the first washes, and then attaching the masa with glue onto watercolor paper, does it work well to paint on it wet, or should it be dried first?

At what stage should the drawing, if any, be done?
Before the masa is crinkled?
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mrrs1
Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2000 - 10:29 am:   Print Post

I am interested in the use of Masa Paper. How is it used, and how does one begin?
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Mariah
Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2000 - 8:01 pm:   Print Post

by mariah on Thursday, June 29, 2000, 7:35 pm
To mrrs1:

Masa is a relatively inexpensive oriental paper that is great to use, but it does take some getting used to. If you can find a copy of a book by Frederick Wong, (hope that is the right name)it will cut down the learning-to-use it processes with Masa, and it is also fun to read. It is hard to explain, but the book does a wonderful job of teaching the uses and once even slightly learned, you will find many of your own.

For instance: As bits and pieces for collages, and for "batik on paper" paintings that can be used for such things as hand made book covers (although on this it is decorative, not sturdy so it needs a sturdy base).

Hope you can use it with as much enthusiam as I have, but do try to borrow or buy the book by Frederick Wong first if you possibly can.

And by the way, Cheap Joe has Masa Paper. When you buy some and give it a try, I would like to hear how your new experiement in painting turned out for you. Happy painting.
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iris1
Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2000 - 10:14 pm:   Print Post

To mrrs1

Masa paper is ideal for using the crinkled paper technique. Cheng-Khee Chee's section in the book "Learning Watercolor the Edgar Whitney Way" describes his procedure in preparing the Masa paper by soaking and crinkling the paper, then painting on the wrinkled surface. The wrinkled surface is ideal for highly textured subjects.
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oswhnr
Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2000 - 4:10 pm:   Print Post

I'd be excited to learn how to use masa paper. I have an artist creating an online class/workshop for this fall that does some masa work. What she created was really lovely! Looks like a fascinating medium. Anyone know anything detailed about it?
www.armchairpaintclasses.com
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e.t.
Posted on Monday, July 24, 2000 - 3:32 pm:   Print Post

This is my first time using the discussion board. I read through it yesterday, and this is for Mariah:
The book by Frederick Wong, would you know the title of the book. I have tried using masa paper, and need more info on it.
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Anonymous
Posted on Monday, July 24, 2000 - 3:52 pm:   Print Post

to e.t. look in amazon.com. his book is out of print.........but another new book will be released soon. are you trying the crinkled paper tech.?
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e.t.
Posted on Monday, July 24, 2000 - 7:47 pm:   Print Post

Thanks anonymous, I will look in amazon.com. Yes I am trying the crinkled paper tech. Tried it once and used elmers glue to adhere to w.c. paper, but when I tried to paint after it was dried I had small balls of paper come off on my brush. Not sure what I did wrong. Plan on trying again.
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Anonymous
Posted on Monday, July 24, 2000 - 8:54 pm:   Print Post

e.t. i've had good luck using 50% h20 to 50% goldens matte medium to adhere to w/c paper.smooth side of masa paper goes on the w/c paper. let it dry. yes, the paper is very fragle, you can't scrub to hard, but when it works it's beautiful.
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NW
Posted on Friday, August 4, 2000 - 8:27 pm:   Print Post

I am using Masa for my floral painting. I first soak masa and krinkl, then add paint to paper as my planing painting need or randomly. Let paint set on paper for few minutes and then I glue masa on watercolor paper with white glue. Then I am adding colors to define my subject working on mostly wet surface, lifting colors with paper towels or spunges or adding and changing colors as needed. Sometimes some final color defining can be made after the painting is dry but I find easiest using watercolor pencils.
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Mariah
Posted on Monday, August 7, 2000 - 9:17 pm:   Print Post

By Mariah, on Monday, August 7, 2000,- 09:10 PM

To e.t. The name of Frederick Wong's book is: Oriental Watercolor Techniques, how to use classic Chinese and Japanese Techniques for contemporary paintings. It was first published in 1977, I believe, by Watson Guptil. It has the most comprehensive coverage of oriental tools, papers, inks and watercolors, etc. of any book that I have found. Masa paper is one of Wong's favorites. Hope you can find the book somewhere.
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Anonymous
Posted on Friday, August 11, 2000 - 6:58 pm:   Print Post

To find an out of print book, try www.bookfinder.com. I've found every book I've wanted there. Good luck.
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becky tubbs
Posted on Friday, August 11, 2000 - 8:49 pm:   Print Post

Are you using the slick side of the paper for your initial application of paint for the crinkled technique? I have tried both sides and am not sure if I am headed in the right direction.
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NW
Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2000 - 3:09 pm:   Print Post

Smooth, slick side of paper is better glued on watercolor paper for it does not soak paint as easy as other side. But I find that it works best for me if I apply paint before gluing it on paper, just colors and shapes that I'll develop later in finished painting after I glue it on Watercolor paper. These first paint is applied on stronger than I would applied it in regular watercolor painting.
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E.T.
Posted on Tuesday, October 3, 2000 - 1:13 pm:   Print Post

To anyone doing the masa paper technique: I just finished a workshop using the masa paper, and we used Liquitex matte medium to adhere the masa paper to a sheet of w.c. paper, and it works fine..My problem is this: I have really bad allergies, and sensitivity to chemical and other ODORS. The matte mediums all seem to have a smell, and gives me a bad headache. Does anyone know of anything else other than white glue that I might possible try. The workshop instructor said that the white glue is not archival, but the matte medium would be considered as such. I love working with the masa paper, but cannot endanger my health so I have to look for other solution.
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sunday painter
Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 7:14 pm:   Print Post

to mrrs 1 from Sunday painter, on Saturday October l4, I hope I'm not to late with some information about masa paper. There is a good article in the book Basic Flower Painting Techniques in Watercolor by Rachel Rubin Wolf.

I took a class using masa paper several years ago while living in Scotsdale. Arizona. He used wheat paste as the glue. I think it can be purchased where wall paper is sold. It has to be thinned down to the consistency of "yogurt"
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a.painter
Posted on Monday, January 29, 2001 - 3:03 pm:   Print Post

Basic Flower painting. By Rachel Rubin Wolf.
North light books. (includes discussion and use)
Paid $17.99
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rmarz
Posted on Thursday, February 1, 2001 - 6:23 am:   Print Post

Or you can try flour-water paste thinly mixed and
applied with an old brush. use a thin even coat
all over one of the two surfaces and then roll it
smoo

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