| Author | Message | ||
  Robert |
I just started using Daler Rowney Perelene Maroon. It is a wonderful mixer across the palette. It grays any blue beautifully. It is muted and thus makes a good main red for a landscape palette. | ||
Robert |
Thank Bruce McElvoy who did http://www.handprint.com. Happy painting--- | ||
Mary Vivit |
AWESOME, ROBERT! (Caps purposely used!!!) Thanks so much. This information will help immeasurably! Mary | ||
Robert |
FYI Handprint's take on PM PR179 perylene maroon (1957) perylene maroon Daniel Smith PR179 perylene maroon Winsor & Newton PR179 perylene maroon Rowney Artists PR179 perylene red Rowney Artists Perylene maroon PR179 is a completely lightfast, transparent, highly staining, very dark valued, dull to moderately dull dull red pigment; five manufacturers offer it worldwide. The ASTM (1999) and manufacturers rate its lightfastness in watercolors as "excellent" (I); my tests make it "very good" (II) due to slight loss of saturation in masstone. In watercolors PR179 (like its scarlet sibling) undergoes a very large drying shift, lightening by 17% and losing 30% saturation. The paints tested were receptive to blossoming when rewetted, but varied in how active they were wet in wet. — Daniel Smith perylene maroon is a dark, evocative pigment, slightly darker and much less saturated than the Winsor & Newton, which gives it a distinct brownish cast that is excellent for landscapes, portraits and botanical illustrations. The Winsor & Newton is distinctly a dull, dark middle red, similar to perylene scarlet (PR149), and like perylene scarlet worth exploring for landscape, botanical or portrait work. The Rowney Artists perylene maroon is the same pigment, slightly less concentrated. Their perylene red is even darker and shifted noticeably toward violet, an unusual color for this pigment. — A very interesting pigment, worth trying. Because it stains so readily, I prefer to use earth pigments for the same palette requirements, and a very close approximation can be mixed from quinacridone violet (PV19) with quinacridone deep gold (PO49). See also the section on perylene pigments. | ||
Patricia Ann |
Hi all, I use Daler-Rowney Perelyene Maroon. I really enjoy its richness and warmth. I use it to darken and enrich reds and to brighten browns. I find myelf using this instead of Burnt Sienna, though it is a bit redder. | ||
Robert |
Mary--I just checked the technical charts on the Grumbacher website and, indeed, perelyene maroon is not offered in the Finest line. What is ofered is Thio Violet ( consists of quinacridone violet plus perelene maroon) and Brown Madder (Perelyene maroon, quinacridone violet, and napthol red). | ||
Mary Vivit |
Thanks to everyone for the help! Grumbacher Finest doesn't have a perylene maroon (at least with that name). I may try the DS offering...can't hurt, right? Mary | ||
Robert |
Mary---You said you ike it but are unhappy with its performance. I'm not sure why you don;t like it. If it is not bright enough you might go with my recommendation. I had recommended rembrandt perm red violet which is actually a quinacridone magenta--so probably not what you want if you like the basic hue and brightness of perylene maroon. Grumbacher Finest line is far far superior to the academy line. Perhaps the perylene maroon in Gruymbacher finest will fit the bill because the grumbacher finest paints use a much finer grade of pigment (even if the same pigment it is usually a much nicer hue) and they are highly concentrated and handle quite well. I love many (but not of all) of Grumbacher Finest colors even though i dislike the academy. | ||
annapet |
Hi, Mary. Right now I use Daniel Smith, but I'm open to try other brands budget permitting. Here's the DS description of their Perylene Maroon: Daniel Smith Extra FineTM Watercolor - Perylene Maroon In the mid-yellow to red zone of the color wheel is this exciting find, Perylene Maroon is a semi-transparent super staining dark red-brown. Perylene Maroon allows glowing washes that can emanate from a saturated source emerging into sunlight patches. As with other staining pigments, create organic textures with salt application and lift pigment for highlights. Its semi-transparency makes Perylene Maroon special for browns. Happy painting! Hi, Robert! | ||
Robert |
Permanent red violet--Rembrandt ( a bit brighter) | ||
Mary Vivit |
Good day! I picked up some inexpensive perylene maroon (Academy) to try out the color. I really do like it, but I'm not happy with the performance, which really is student-grade. Does anyone have any recommendations for professional-grade options? Thanks!!! |
