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  Dirtybird New member Username: Dirtybird Post Number: 3 Registered: 10-2006 |
Some years back I did a couple of paintings using D'UVA ERASABLE WATERCOLORS. Now I want to try again. Anyone know where I can buy them now?? | ||
Ted Unregistered guest |
“the essential color make-up of a beginner’s palette” depends on the subject matter (landscape, portrait, still life) you want to paint and the style (realism, impressionism, expressionism) you want to explore. | ||
Deecubed Member Username: Deecubed Post Number: 30 Registered: 12-2007 |
I find that Cheap Joes' house brand, American Journey, is just great. These paints are made by DaVinci, which is a first class brand. American Journey has wonderful bright colors, such as Rambling Rose, Harvest Wheat [quin gold]and others. I realy like them and they are deifinitely professional quality and a lot of bang for the buck. | ||
Doggiedaddy New member Username: Doggiedaddy Post Number: 1 Registered: 5-2010 |
I've been a long time admirer of Tom Lynch ever since I sat in on his workshop back in '93! He has always felt he needed the brightest colors he could find; he used ' Speedball ' at the time; now he prefers ' Holbein '. Holbein tubes are a little too steep for my bank account...what are the essential color make-up of a beginner pallette and which brands are not necessarily ' student grade ' but professional that will give me the bright colors needed? | ||
Grizrev Senior Member Username: Grizrev Post Number: 732 Registered: 8-2006 |
Suruchi, Try this link: http://handprint.com/HP/WCL/wpaint.html | ||
Suruchi New member Username: Suruchi Post Number: 1 Registered: 1-2010 |
question from a newbie. where can i find info that will explain paint characteristics such as "granulating" etc of different colors and brands? thanks! | ||
Linda |
This subject is of peculiar interest to me. When quality can vary so widely, why should we be ignorant? It's the same with white bread vs. 100% whole wheat. Alone, one sustains life, and with the other, you die, horribly. How do you know how to choose? The Wilcox book was my first study, and alerted me to the problems we face as artists finding quality materials. What if you become the next Cezanne? Will people be able to tell a few years from now? But drollere is right, we must test these materials for ourselves! Who comprises the ASTM? Who pays them? Manufacturers? Yet who can personally afford to purchase every single paint for these tests? If one cannot do all the tests personally, the next best thing is vicarious knowledge, experienced others sharing their findings. Yes, that's why we are here. This artist community online is invaluable to humanity. Thank you, Cheap Joes, for having the only thing like this I've found yet, for allowing the unexpected to arise, and what a blessing! We can share with each other the gems we've found, and here's a beauty for you: Handprint.com. Not only does this author conduct all the tests we are looking for, there are a few more tests made you didn't know we needed! And nowhere, in all my studies which are extensive, have I found such a wealth of information on watercolors, all in one package. This site is magnificent! I can't even begin to imagine what work it took to put it all together. Knowledge is power. Handprint.com is the place to find it, regarding watercolor. There's way more information than just watercolor, which I haven't yet dipped into, because I'm still trying to gather all the watercolor information! Kudos for drollere, whom I believe to be the author of this website of excellence -- handprint.com! You have contributed so much, given so magnanimously of yourself for all of humanity. I hope, dearly hope that what you have done can be passed on and maintained for the future generations. I am willing to help with my effort. You are a visionary in my eyes. We are extremely fortunate to have you visit this artist community from time to time. Perhaps art forever, but certainly the world of watercolor will never be the same because of you, drollere. You are most appreciated! | ||
BigDillPickle |
It's time for me to stock up on paints -- I like to do this only once or twice a year to save on shipping costs -- and I need help with selecting a few I haven't yet tried. If you know anything about any of these, your comments will be well appreciated. 1. What are the differences in working with WN alizarin crimson and WN permanent alizarin crimson? Are they equally staining? Equally transparent? Mix equally well with the same other paints? Same color? 2. If you've tried any of these paints, I'd really appreciate a description of it in terms of its relative transparency or opacity, staining power or ease of lifting, value straight from the tube, etc. -----> WN indian yellow -----> WN quinacridone gold -----> WN oxide of chromium -----> WN prussian blue -----> WN indigo -----> WN rose dore 3. Has anyone compared the above WN paints with Holbein's? I've tried three Holbein paints (in wild colors) and I like the consistency from the tube, but I don't know how Holbein is in the more traditional colors. | ||
fink |
Hey BigDillPickle: I have been using the WN indigo and love it for the real dark detailed areas around a painting. I use it alot if I need a background color that may be on the dark value. Usually I use alot of it if I use any of it. Most colors can be lifted with alot of water and toothbrush. Some people don't like to scrub paper that way but when I make a real mess, sometimes it can be resolved with that technique. As for the quinacridone gold, one of my friends has it and loves it. I want to try some of hers sometime since we trade paint to see if we will like it enough to buy it. The holbein colors are nice. The opera is my favorite and it mixes well with other colors too. Generally I don't worry about the brands of paint only the color. | ||
Anonymous |
perm.alz. crim. better from w/n .will not fade. Q gold is beautiful,from daniel smith. Q burnt orange, is another nice color. i love indigo,but it can overpower a painting. opera will fade,but is a nice color. | ||
BigDill Pickle |
Anonymous mentions quinacridone gold from Daniel Smith, but I've seen the same color name from several brands. Has anyone tried different brands of Q gold? I'd like to know how they compare with the Daniel Smith Q gold. | ||
Howard |
-----> WN indian yellow -----> WN quinacridone gold -----> WN oxide of chromium -----> WN prussian blue -----> WN indigo -----> WN rose dore Indian Yellow is easy to handle, goes down dark when you want a thick tone, but very nicely waters down into a wash. It's the best in this range I've found. Oxide of Chromium turns out to be a very useful color for shade of trees, mossy areas, etc. It goes on thick, and seems to have either a thick and dark tone or a light one. It's not flexible, more like a tempera, but the color itself is very useful. W&N Indigo also goes down dark, and it's important that you water it down considerably before laying it in. That way, you'll see the elegant dark blue tone. Rose Dore is similar to Oxide of Chromium in that it goes down either dark or light. It's thinner, though, and it can be manipulated. I recomme | ||
Carrie Stuart Parks |
I have used both DS Q Gold and WN Q Gold. They are both beautiful and rich. Q Gold and indigo make a great dark green. WN Indigo is a tad bluer than Holbein Indigo which I think looks a bit grayer. | ||
Kukana |
I can't paint without DS-Q colors especially the gold. Its wonderful to mix with any primary because of it clear transparency and rich saturated color. I espeically love to use it as a glaze over a dry cool violet. It gives such a warm rich glow as if sunshine is glowing through the painting. I even had a painting that I just wasn't happy with so I wet down the entire paper and glazed right over the top of the entire paper with Q gold and splahes of Q coral and Q rose. WOW!!! Who'd a thought??? | ||
G. Nina |
I'm getting ready to purchase some Artist's quality paints--graduating from my student colors! Does anyone have an opinion on DaVinci Paints? Thanks. | ||
J.A. |
Nina et al Have any of you tried the new Maimeriblu watercolors? I've made a switch recently from my old standard W-N. I pondered it for quite some time and then sent for a trial set. I was really impressed with them, and I've been using W-N paints for over 20 years. Any feedback from others who may have tried them? | ||
inkshed |
I've been using MaimeriBlu watercolors for a couple of years now, and I think many of them are splendid -- creamy smooth, lots of rich depth. I'm delighted that CJAS is now carrying them, and at such a reasonable price. By the way: I prefer DS's quinacridone gold over W&N's version. But W&N's indigo is simply wonderful. | ||
PettyCash00 |
Nina - DaVinci paints are really excellent. From a technical standpoint, they all have superior lightfastness and permanence based on the Wilcox guide. Very few of the DaVinci paints are rated less than total permanence. You really have to do your research on this aspect if you go to other brands. You also get alot more paint for your money than you do from a brand like WN. WN are decent paints, but I recently switched over from WN paints to all DaVinci. They are a smoother mix and seemed to just be easier to handle overall. Defintely easier to mix colors wihtout getting chunks or grit like I sometimes seem to get from my WN paints. Well worth the money in my opinion. | ||
G. Nina |
Hi PettyCash--thanks for your response re: DaVinci paints--I'm going to go ahead and buy some. I have a supply list for an upcoming workshop--can you tell me which DaVinci paint is a substitute for WN Permanent Rose? Thanks again. | ||
drollere |
nearly all of these questions about watercolor paints are answered at http://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/wpaint.html ... this is the largest resource for watercolor painters on the internet. it includes detailed ratings of transparency, staining, tonal value, activity wet-in-wet, etc., for all the paints discussed in this topic. i recommend you read the sections on doing your own paint tests, and your own lightfastness tests -- there's no substitute for testing paints yourself. you learn the properties of the colors, you learn what really turns you on, and you get experience with the materials themselves. | ||
Anonymous |
How does MaimeriBlu compare to W & N? | ||
gabriel |
hello- as far as i can tell, the maimeriblu line has some rather odd colors (i.e. dragon's blood), and a wide variety of them. both boast good lightfastness quality, and both supply a rich, creamy pigment. i would say that the maimeriblu pigments do seem to be a bit brighter than the winsor and newton. it is kind of a tough call, though, as they are both considered professional watercolors. -gabriel. | ||
h2ocolourist |
As far as DaVinci paints being good, they are, but I differ in the opinion that they are better than some on the market. They are quite granular and sedimentary, but hold to good lightfastness and color tone, mix well, WAY to grainy. When you do a flat wash and glaze over the top of it, you'll see what I mean. I use to have their sepia, burnt umber, raw umber, indigo, ultramarine (very grainy), raw sienna, sap green and colbalt blue on one of my palettes, but have replaced them with Daniel Smith. I would not suggest leaving the Da Vinci's on a palette, but use them straight out of the tube for best results. Less likely to be dryed and then rewet again to become even more grainy... In fact, I use very little W&N paints anymore, a couple of Holbein colors and the rest are DS watercolors. Extremely transparent, most with no sediment, good lighfastness, brilliant colors and mix well, even with other media. I just love their paints and have had good results with all of them. Is it just my or is W&N paints, my staple artist grade for years, seem to be more opaque these days?? HUH, just me I guess... I have not been paid for this Daniel Smith plug! LOL | ||
edzzzmuze |
Gawrsh... I can't believe nobody haz mentioned Joe's own "American Journey" paints. I just tried some and they are awesome! Huge tubes like the oil painters and acrylic users can get! (Why haven't watercolor paint manufacturers done this before???) Good quality paints as far as I can see... Try 'em. You'lll luv 'em! (No kidden) | ||
Laura36 |
Well, this conversation has been going on for some time now. I use a variety of paints from different brands. I have been paying particular notice to whether the paint is light fast or fugitive. The earth tones of course are the most light fast. I do like W&N colors, but also some Holbein colors because they are more opaque and I tend to like heavier color. Quinacridone Gold (W&N) is my favorite color, is very granular and staining. I like Manganese Blue by American Journey and W&N. Rose Madder Genuine (AJ)Naples Yellow (AJ)Aureolin (W&N)are good colors. I use Burnt Sienna (AJ)and Ultramarine Blue (AJ) a lot, and Antwerp Blue by W&N. Some say this is fugitive, but according to the experts it is mostly lightfast. Holbein colors are great, and I like Verditer Blue, Leaf Green and Opera, although the latter is definitely fugitive and I use it sparingly. I think that color is wonderful, but unfor-tunately care should be taken in whether the colors are as lightfast as possible. I actually care more about the quality of the paper, then the quality of the paints. This is where I spend my money, rather than on expensive brushes and other supplies, because the finished product is what you want to last. I believe that if you have wonderful paper, the best that money can buy, and the best quality paints, your process of painting will be more fun, and the finished piece will last and last. You can paint with a stick or our fingers, for that matter. I do a lot of teaching, and I have had students bring in poor quality paints and not get the results that I do with the high quality pigments. When they ask why their piece doesn't look like mine, I tell them that the difference is in the paint. Good paint gives you a good piece of work. By the way-Maimeri colors are fine and seem to work as well as other paints. | ||
Jennifer Parker |
Can anybody tell me about Holbein Iridori watecolors? Are they worth investing in? |
