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John Preston
| | Posted on Friday, October 1, 2004 - 5:25 pm: |  |
I love Grumbacher's Burnt Sienna too. I've got a tube that's 20 years old and even it's slightly different than current stock (which I would expect from a naturally derived pigment). It's a bit more orange in undertone than scarlet and a great mixer, especially with blues. It's potent for an earth color and tints out beautifully, too. I love most everyone's earth colors but the Grumbacher Burnt Sienna is a standout. |
Robert
| | Posted on Friday, October 1, 2004 - 12:39 pm: | |
Thanks, but not at all--I have Q. Sienna from DS. Very different. It is hot hot and bright and is also not an earth pigment. The Grumbacher Raw siewnna is a delicate muted beige. |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Friday, October 1, 2004 - 11:47 am: | |
Quin. Sienna from Smith may be a match! |
Robert
| | Posted on Friday, October 1, 2004 - 11:44 am: | |
I have always thought of raw sienna as a muted yellow, mixable with blues to make muted greens.
I have always looked at burnt sienna as a muted orange.
Well, for the heck of it I ordered Grumbacher's Finest Raw and Burnt Siennas when I read on the Grumbacher Discussion Board a while back the statement by the Grumbacher spokesperson that only their Siennas adhere to the traditional sienna hues. Her claim was that most of the traditonal italian mines have played out and other manufacturers have had to go elsewhere for their clays, producing siennas that are nothing like they were 1 or 2 or 3 centuries ago. Grumbacher, she stated, is the only maker to have access to the time honored clays of the siennas. So I just got around to ordering some.
Now to the point:
The raw sienna is about 4 times as concentrated as most other brands--a little goes a long way. The hue is beige--tan--with NO yellow overtones. Mixed with ultramarine you get gray, not muted green. As a faint tint in a sky it is a very natural peach sky tint--the kind of hue that lingers near the horizon in mid morning skies and that touches the light side of clouds--a color i actually had misread as yellower until i tried this raw sienna in clouds. The burnt sienna is more like an English red or Light Red--more of a muted scarlet. Mixed with ultramarine it gives a slightly mauvish gray.
Here's the thing--they behave diffently than what I'm used to, but they are amazing for flesh tones.
The raw sienna is a dead on flesh color and the burnt sienna is a dead on color to both deepen the raw sienna flesh and to add reddish highlihgts. What a discovery!!
BTW--I know daniel Smith offers quite a few siennas from various sources and perhaps one of these is similar the Grumbacher--I have no experience with these. |
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