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  Grizrev Senior Member Username: Grizrev Post Number: 285 Registered: 8-2006 |
Joanna, I first saw David Hockney's paintings at Salt's Mill at Saltaire in West Yorkshire, a former woolen mill now converted to a museum. He may not be among the greatest watercolorists, but his daschunds certainly are lovable! By the way, you have to give Sir Titus Salt credit for building a humane mill village for his workers, an impressive alternative to the widespread abusive treatment of the common laborers of his time. | ||
Joanna Member Username: Joanna Post Number: 29 Registered: 10-2006 |
Well, Hundertwasser did watercolor (1928-2000) so he's contemporary and I love his work but more his oils. "Singing Steamers" is gorgeous. The vaunted David Hockney does watercolor but I am not such a fan. Of the contemporarys, Lucy Willis thrills me. | ||
Grizrev Senior Member Username: Grizrev Post Number: 275 Registered: 8-2006 |
Are there politically-correct barriers (standards, tastes, biases, preferences, etc.) preventing fine artists in our own time from receiving recognition by today's art establishment, such as the Royal Watercolor Society? In other words, are there any Seagos and Manets out there? Or does it matter? Are the good artists of our time content to receive the approbation of the public by way of sales, as Tom Lynch would suggest. After all, this is a capitalist society. On the other hand, I think we should be aware of the behavior of those who control the reins of culture and the access to museums and exhibitions, particularly the fine arts, at any given time! | ||
Grizrev Senior Member Username: Grizrev Post Number: 270 Registered: 8-2006 |
I would add Edward Seago to the historical list. He was much loved by the British people, but never really accepted by the art establishment. What else is new? Did not the Impressionists suffer the same? | ||
Joanna Junior Member Username: Joanna Post Number: 25 Registered: 10-2006 |
After seeing an exhibit in the 90's of infrequently displayed watercolors at the Worcester (MA) museum, I decided upon: Childe Hassam,1859-1935 Winslow Homer,1856-1910 Edward Hopper, 1882-1967 Maurice Pendergast, 1859-1924 John Singer Sargent, 1856-1925 And of course the English David Cox is wonderful. There are many others: August Macke is one not favored here but really big in Europe. He didn't live past a few days in WWI. What a loss. | ||
Marie Senior Member Username: Marie Post Number: 344 Registered: 8-2006 |
I do love figure painting and drawing, and my choices probably reflect that. I had to throw in Michelangelo and Hals because I am so blown away by both of them -- Michelangelo for the structural integrity of his figures and Hals for his absolutely *gorgeous* and economical brushwork. | ||
Grizrev Senior Member Username: Grizrev Post Number: 269 Registered: 8-2006 |
Marie, Does your choice of two out of three historical favorites who are famed for their portraiture indicate a similar focus of interest on your part? | ||
Marie Senior Member Username: Marie Post Number: 342 Registered: 8-2006 |
Interesting list. I think I recall reading the article when it came out, but I had forgotten about . It's more broad-minded that I would have expected. My favorites: Historical favorites (watercolor) are: * Turner * Daumier * Sargent (my all time favorite) Historical favorites (not watercolor): * Michelangelo * Frans Hals Contemporary favorites (in no particular order): * Trevor Chamberlain * John Yardley * John Salminen * Dean Mitchell * H. C. Dodd * Arne Westerman * Alex Powers * Lucy Willis * Robert Wade | ||
Eugene Senior Member Username: Eugene Post Number: 309 Registered: 8-2006 |
From Fall, 2006 WATERCOLOR MAGAZINE thought it might be of interest-- it was to me. Andrew Wyeth’s list of the twenty great watercolor artists Milton Avery, 1893-1905 Charles Burchfield, 1893-1967 Charles Demuth, 1883-1935 Arthur Dove, 1880-1946 Thomas Eakins, 1844-1916 Hardy Gramatky, 1905-1979 Moris Graves, 1910-2001 Childe Hassam,1859-1935 Winslow Homer,1856-1910 Edward Hopper, 1882-1967 Georgia O’Keeffe,1887-1986 John Marin, 1870-1953 Thomas Moran, 1837-1926FROM FALL 2006 John Pike, 1911-1979 Ogden Pleissner, 1905-1983 Maurice Pendergast, 1859-1924 John Singer Sargent, 1856-1925 Millard Sheets, 1907-1989 William Thon, 1906-2000 note: When I was a student in art school I got into my first big show in NYC, and was hanging next to Ogden Pliessner-- What a thrill for a beginner! | ||
Raliegh Advanced Member Username: Raliegh Post Number: 107 Registered: 8-2006 |
Eugene you had a fine mentor, gorgeous work. I particularly like the sun in the leaves behind the tree. | ||
Eugene Senior Member Username: Eugene Post Number: 275 Registered: 8-2006 |
 This is a painting by my teacher and mentor. Wimot Emerton Heitland. painted circa 1950 in Bucks County PA.. thought you'd be interested. | ||
Eugene Senior Member Username: Eugene Post Number: 245 Registered: 8-2006 |
Anon. Fem, I tend to agree with you on DiStephano and Powers. Both have established definite styles, which is important, but they are styles that I don't much care for. And with DiStephano, especially, if you've seen one you've seen them all. I think they're both good, but not great. | ||
Anonymous Fem Unregistered guest |
What a wide array of tastes! Personally (IMHO) I think DiStefano and Powers are gimmicky, using one trick--sloppy values contrast based painting--it is if they paint the same thing over and over. Not meaning to be argumentative, just enjoying the give and take of opinions, here. I like, personally, Lucy Willis. | ||
Kisha Unregistered guest |
I like Dominic DiStefano (landscapes) and Alex Powers (during the period that he wrote Painting People in Watercolor) for portraits and figures. | ||
Rekha Senior Member Username: Rekha Post Number: 236 Registered: 8-2006 |
AND it works! I broke one of my white Conte hard pastel, made a thick paste of it and applied it using my paint brush on dry paper. When dry, I applied the paint, wet on dry. When dry, use a palette knife or something similar to scrape. Haven't tried wet on wet for chalk-masked areas. Advantages: 1. No fussing with soap - use any brush 2. Make any shape with the brush loaded with chalk paste, not really possible with latex because it dries before you get the chance (with me at any rate) 3. Scrape off without any mess. | ||
Rekha Senior Member Username: Rekha Post Number: 235 Registered: 8-2006 |
I found the reference which is available for the next 14 days to look at. https://secure.jstor.org/action/Receipt?token=bdur05jd5862x8ke | ||
Rekha Senior Member Username: Rekha Post Number: 234 Registered: 8-2006 |
The book didn't go into much detail other than he made a paste of chalk and water, apply it, and let it dry before progressing with painting. Somehow it doesn't sound right because I expect the chalk to spread the moment water is applied on it. I'll try and get the reference that book got the information from and let you know | ||
Marie Senior Member Username: Marie Post Number: 283 Registered: 8-2006 |
How did the chalk technique work? I might be interested in trying it. Latex maskoid drives me crazy. | ||
Rekha Senior Member Username: Rekha Post Number: 233 Registered: 8-2006 |
I am just reading the fascinating story of Winslow Homer in Winslow Homer Poet of the Sea. He used one technique of homemade chalk in water in areas he wanted to keep white. Why is this technique not extant, it is so simple? Why doesn't anyone ever write about Winslow Homer other than a passing mention and the two books he referred to in great detail: Handbook of young artists and amateurs in oil paintings ed. Sophie Levy Chevreul in colour: the laws of contrast of colour and their application to the Arts | ||
dirtybird |
I would like to reccomend an artist whose work I recently got to see in person -Dean Mitchell. The brother is "bad". http://www.bryantgalleries.com/index_files/page0015.htm | ||
Joe Hass |
Yes, I did check out this photographer's web site, http://www.kingwu.com I agreed his photo website is one of the best I have seen, the photos he took is amazing. Thanks for sharing. | ||
Suzy |
Yeah, he's done some amazing stuff. He is taking a three year hiatas from paintig but it will be fun to see his stuff when he returns. I've seen his original and they are captivating to look at . The compostions just grab ya! Here is another cool photographer site that i love. http://www.kingwu.com | ||
jdaneman |
Suzy--thanks for publishing those links, especially to Nelson Boren. I got a kick out of those. I don't do super realism, but I love his composition and theme. I just did a series of cowboy things for a friend who's moved from a corporate existence to being a rancher and horse handler. So I liked seeing his paintings a lot--I loved them. | ||
Dake |
Edward Wesson! | ||
Eugene |
I too like James Fletcher-Watson. I have two of his books. I think it's great that we can share thoughts with people around the world on the internet | ||
Larry Bailey |
One of my favorite watercolor artists is James Fletcher-Watson. He is an artist in the true English tradition. His instructional videos are a real eye opener on technique and color. Sadly he passed away last June but his teaching lives on. | ||
jdaneman |
Nicholas, your site comes up blank for me. Is there some kind of strange cookie requirement? | ||
jefields |
I am soooo happy I found this site! I would like to add Cheng-Khee Chee to your list. I think he's awesome, both as a painter and as an instructor. And Barbara Nechis, whose style is so unique and fresh. She's also an excellent instructor. | ||
Dake |
Hey Nick Welcome to CJAS, your among some fine and thoughtful artists here mate. Dave | ||
nes7827 |
Another Iowan here (Cedar Rapids), now in DC, by way of everywhere. check out my site, if interested in large watercolors. http://www.nicholassimmons.com or http://nicholassimmons.com thanks! | ||
John Preston |
Jane, We probably passed each other on I80. I lived in Annapolis before moving to Iowa. I'm about an hour south of Iowa City, but didn't go to school there. BTW, I want to add a couple more Brits to my list: Norman Sayle and David John Crockett. | ||
jandrle |
John... I am an Iowan, too. An Iowa graduate, grew up in Algona, north of Ft. Dodge. Did you study art at Iowa by any chance? I now live in Alexandria, Virginia but go back to Iowa often, just returned from the Capital One Bowl Game. Jane | ||
John Preston |
Eugene, No, I'm in Iowa, but quite the Anglophile in matters of watercolor, tea and Bertie and Jeeves comedy. Probably the ancestral origins calling out in me. | ||
Suzy |
I would add Frank Webb because of his ablility to dividied the paper into the most interesting of shapes! James Christensen for his charming imagination he infuses into his work http://www.jameschristensen.com Nelson Boren for perspective of being able to focus on one small part of the human form and have it tell a whole story http://www.nelsonborenart.com ...all living. . | ||
Eugene |
John Preston-- Are you in England? I live in Pennsylvania. Really liked your list. Especially like John Yardley. | ||
jdaneman |
Good lists (thanks for Cotman and Cox, love both) and would add Childe Hassam. | ||
Robert |
Winslow Homer, Treevor Chamberlain, Mel Stabin, Sargent, Irving Shapiro, Eliot O'hara, my 2 year old granddaughter. | ||
John Preston |
Lots to like there...I would add some living Brits: John Yardley, David Curtis, Ronald Jesty, Lucy Willis, Ken Howard and some dead Brits: J.M.W.Turner, Thomas Girtin, Thomas Collier, Richard Parkes Bonington, John Linnel, John Sell Cotman, David Cox, Francis Towne and Trevor Chamberlain. Edward Hopper, William Trost Richards and Charles Burchfield, for dead Americans and so many live ones I'd be here all night. | ||
Eugene |
I’m interested in knowing who are the favorite artists of our “discussion group” Past and Present. Here is a list of some of the watercolorists that I admire most.- but not in that order. 1. Winslow Homer 2. John Singer Sargent 3. Russel Flint 4. W. Emerton Heitland 5. Tore Aspund 6. Ogden Pleissner 7. John Pike Many of the above can be found in “WATERCOLOR METHODS” out of print- published 1955 by Watson-Guptill 8. Philip Jamison 9. Carlton Plummer 10. Joseph Bohler 11. Carl Dalio 12. Jeanne Dobie 13. Robert Wade 14. Joseph Zbukvic These are some I like best. Let’s see your list. |
