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Robert
Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 4:41 pm:   Print Post

Stymied by technical challenges?--
Yes--interior scenes with outdoor lighting coming into the room.
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Robert
Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 4:20 pm:   Print Post

Sarita--just to make sure we are on the same page--it is not Grumbacher "Academy" ultramarine --which is a more violet, grandeously granulating, great french ultramarine. It is Grumbacher FINEST Utramarine (but not Grumbacher Finest "French" Ultramarine). Three great, totally useful and very different paints!
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sarita
Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 8:56 am:   Print Post

Thanks all for the great advice. Robert, I will definitely check out the Grumbacher's ultra.
Thanks jdaneman for the picture. Pretty close
to the colors I see.

I remember an earlier post about dreaming about
paintings. Very rarely do I envision a painting
before I start. This however came to me before I even took the first photo. The idea is all about
the colors and the shapes I see in the glass. More abstract than realistic. And since I've never painted glass before, I'm sure I will drive myself insane.

Has anyone had a particular subject they have wanted to paint, but failed or avoided it because of the technical aspects of it?

If so would you share your thoughts.
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Raliegh
Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 12:18 pm:   Print Post

Ahh, here is an interesting composition. If the artist didn't want to lay several colors in the background (glazing) would it be possible to get a dark enough contrast?
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Robert
Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 11:10 am:   Print Post

The brightest, most bright blues seem to be made by Holbein, so I'd look there.

However, I am not of the same painting mind set evidently and so don't really know much about how to help. I've noticed that Daniel Smith sells specific mini-palettes to cover very specific subjects, like purple irises--and they give the exact colors to make these without much mixing. I however prefer to work with a standard limited palette and tend to make due with the standard choices and do a lot of mixing.

All that being said, my understanding is that a lot of what it takes to make colors "pop" is what they are surrounded with --contrasting values and complements mostly. But if you mean by "pop" that you want a more artifically electric blue, I look at Holbein's Peacock and Marine blues and some others. Grumbacher Finest Ultramarine (not French Ult) is also quite brilliant and about this hue.
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jdaneman
Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 10:52 am:   Print Post

blue-bottle.jpg

Just for fun I put up this picture of a cobalt pitcher. I can see purples, turquoises, etc. What do you see?
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George
Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 10:14 am:   Print Post

Is it possible for you to post a photograph of the bottle?
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sarita
Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 9:20 am:   Print Post

I need some technical advice on the best blues to use for painting a cobalt blue glass bottle.

I spent the greater part of my weekend trying to
correctly mix the blues I see in the bottle.

Since the composition is very simple, just a slight birds-eye view of the bottle along with
it's cast shadow and the refractory shapes inside
the shadow. I need the blues to really pop!!

I was using Daniel Smith's ultramarine blue, phtalo blue and carb. violet. Just was not working.

The foreground/background will be left white.
With part of the bottle having a lost edge.
I'm still debating on whether to add some flowers
(cool lemon yellows to offset the blues).

Any ideas??

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