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  jdaneman |
I like their yellows and reds a lot. The jelly consistency in the reds is ok. And I use "Coffee with Cream" and "Coastal Fog" judiciously for an opaque touch. But I prefer Holbein and Daniel Smith overall. | ||
Suzy |
You know, I'v found that some of AJ colors are 'jellier" than others. I like the Thioindigo..I DO NOT like their Cerulean....or their Ultra marine Blue. Actually I don't like their Joes Green or Joes Blues either (Phalos) | ||
jdaneman |
Thanks for the rec on the passionate purple. I am leery of funny names, even if so appealing as AJ colors. I don't like the filler gel either (that big tube ain't so big) but the paints are generally good and affordable. I will give it a try next time I need thio violet. --Joanna, who is not painting much these days but will post a pic here somewhere of a recent painting (portrait.) | ||
Suzy T |
I bought some of American Journey Thioindigo Violet and love it. They called it Passionate Purple and I have been very happy with it. | ||
ben |
a reply to my own post ... from Winsor & Newton's own information: discontinued: purple madder replaced by single pigment perylene violet discontinued: thioindigo violet nearest equivalent: perylene violet | ||
ben |
I was looking for a dark and dull pigment and Lisa's question pointed where to look. So I tried W&N Perylene Violet (PV29, whatever that may be). It is a dull and dark maroon, even more as it dries; an old pluche chair. As dull and dark as english/indian red (PR101) but it is transparent and maroon, not brown. Not as bright as perylene maroon PR179), but like benzimidazolone maroon (PR171) or even less red, like DS 'raw umber violet' (I only know these two from thumbnails :-) For what I see now, it behaves like perylene maroon, but has less tinting strength. Diluted it looks colorless, violetish next to warm colors, somewhat like diluted mars violet does, but it is not violet to me (well, that is, what color does violet refer to in English? not to the flowers I call violets). Now I think of it, I can try the raw umber+quin.violet (PV19) mixture ... Whith W&N raw umber the color looks like a red ochre, not like perylene violet ... Another try, less yellow, the quin violet with a 'near neutral' raw umber (Rowney Artist)... Compared to dried perylene violet: yes, close enough. Now the irrelevant part: so far I like this pigment; not much experience for this message, but a lot of confusing words hope it helps, Ben | ||
Lisa K. |
Hi - I just got a brochure in the mail from Winsor and Newton which give all the information about their revised 2005 watercolor line, including the pigments for the new and revised colors! Here are some of the highlights. Transparent Yellow is now Nickel Azo yellow (PY150). Turner's Yellow is PY216 "Titanium, tin, zinc, antimony oxide". It's an opaque mid yellow, between Cad. Yellow Pale and New Gamboge on the color chart. Perylene Green is PBk31. Perylene Violet is PV29; on the color chart it is between Perylene Maroon and Caput Mortuum Violet. Winsor Red Deep is PR264, a semiopaque Pyrrole red. It is between Quinacridone Red and Perm. Aliz. Crimson on the color chart. Winsor Orange Red Shade is PO73, another semiopaque Pyrrole color. Opera Rose is PV19 plus a dye. Permanent Magenta is now PV19 instead of Thioindigo Violet. Light Red is now single-pigment PR102 and Raw Umber is now PBr7; both were mixes involving PY42 before. You can get a brochure by requesting one from Winsor and Newton, be sure to include your snail mail address. -- Lisa | ||
Patrice |
Winsor & Newton "Violet", (Series 1 A) is about half way down in the far left column. "Carbazole Dioxazine" is listed as the ingredient. It is a deep purply blue color full strength. The lighter and more orchid colored "Cobalt Violet" (Series 4 AA) shown here lists "Cobalt phosphate, PV 14, cobalt aluminate PB 28" as ingredients, with a lightfastness of 1. If there is a new version, hopefully it will be more lightfast. China painters have long used a black green named "Shadow Green." It is nice for painting stems of flowers, especially if one needs an 'Oriental' feel for stems and leaves. I guess I'm saying that it looks a lot like ink, with a hint of green. | ||
Anya |
Thanks, Lisa, for bringing this question up. I was just going thru Cheapjoes Spring catalogue when I noticed all the new colours. It seems, perhaps, they are offering several as competitive to other manufacturers (ie Opera). I'll wait and see as right now I am over-stocked on paint. | ||
marie |
I have not been able to get my hands on any of the pigments yet, but Winsor and Newton is supposed to be sending a technical data sheet. In the mean time, I have some pretty good guesses about some of the new paints. Turners Yellow -- I am betting (and hoping) it's probably nickel azo yellow. W/N added this pigment to their oil line about a year ago. Nickel azo yellow is similar to New Gamboge but less saturated. It is very nice for mixing greens. Opera Rose -- I notice that it has a not-so-great lightfastness rating so I imagine it will be similar to Hobein's Opera. Perylene Green is almost certainly perylene black, which Holbein markets as Shadow Green. If so, it is almost black in mass tone and dilutes to the green of a Coca-Cola bottle. It's an interesting pigment, but I have never figured out quite what to do with it. They are also introducing a couple of new ochres and a second shade of Cerulean Blue. W/N confirmed with me last we that they are not reformulating their existing Yellow Ochre or Cerulean Blue. I am looking forward to finding out more soon. Marie | ||
Lisa K. |
Hi -- has anyone tried any of the new Winsor and Newton watercolors (Feb 2005)? Winsor and Newton has not posted pigment information for them on their web site, and I'd like to know what is really in "Turner's Yellow", "Opera Rose", and the new "Quinacridone Gold" (the pigment of that name is now unavailable, so it must be a mix). I'd also love to hear about people's experiences with Perylene Green and Violet (what does the color look like in a thin wash? they look black in Cheap Joe's thumbnails) and Potter's Pink (how does it compare to Daniel Smith's paint of the same name?) What has been improved about the new Colbalt Violet over the old one? Thanks -- Lisa |
