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Eugene
Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 4:13 pm:   Print Post

Marylou,
A few years ago I took a workshop with Katherine Lui and was
disappointed. She is a well known juror in many national shows
and I think that influences her thinking. The workshop was an
open studio type with no instruction, just slide presentations
and lectures and critiques of the our work. She seemed to be
most impressed with the unusual, startling, outlandish and new,
without much regard for technical skills. The kind of work that
often gets into shows just because it’s different.
I didn’t like examples of her work either. But that was just me, I
suppose. Many of the other students thought she was great.
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Marylou
Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 1:21 pm:   Print Post

With spring/summer Workshop Season just around the corner.
A list of likes and dislikes of instructors you have studied with
would be helpful. Because of the sensitive nature of the subject,
you may want to post under an assumed name.
The best artists are not always the best instructors.

My list of good instructors---.
Frank Webb
Carl Dalio
Joseph Bohler
Don Andrews
Carlton Plummer
Tom Nicholas (gouache)
Serge Hollerbach
Jean Grastorf (pouring techniques)

“So-So” instructors---
Janet Walsh
Al Stine
Guy Libscolm

In my opinion, Bad instructors---
Skip Lawrence
Alex Powers
Katherine Lui (no instruction, critique only)
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Suzy T
Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 6:59 pm:   Print Post

Eugene, whose address is that in Pittsburgh? Not Frank's...???
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Zoe
Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 6:01 pm:   Print Post

Eugene - thanks SO MUCH for Webb's information. I go down to Pittsburgh as often as possible (my daughter, SIL and new grand-daughter are living there now) and I thought about getting into touch with Frank Webb when I was visiting.

My kids called me not long ago to say they had gone to an art show and sat on a Webb chair :D

Happy Weekend, Eugene!!!
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Eugene
Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 3:01 pm:   Print Post

Zoe, You can contact Webb by writng to him at 5
Grandview Ave., Apt 401, Pittsburgh, PA 15211 or
calling at (412) 488-9988
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Suzy
Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 6:47 pm:   Print Post

sarasota art

Breaking the Watercolor Barrier. Frank Webb
Sharpen your critical sense. Separate the creative from the mundane, learn to build paintings with knowledge & care. Spatial relationships, aesthetic concepts, perspective, value and color are all used as creative elements to achieve unity. Mistakes, blunders and humor are invited! Frank Webb is famous for his workshops.
M - Th , Feb 7 - 10. 9:30 am to 3:30 pm. Mem $270 / Non $295
Demo: Sun, Feb 6 2 pm to 4 pm. Mem $7 / Non $10
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GaryDoc
Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 4:19 pm:   Print Post

Suzy,
What do you know about Webb in Sarasota? Where can I get info?
Gary
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Zoe
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 9:00 am:   Print Post

Thanks, Suzy, for the advice, something I take seriously. I am not much of a workshop gal, but when I select one I want to breath in and breath out. If I manage to organize my time and pocketbook for Webb in Upstate New York, I'll be sure to go with an open mind :D

Take care and yup, I've got those pages you so kindly sent!!!!
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Suzy T
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 7:34 am:   Print Post

Duh? Thats right..you're from NYC..I even mailed those pages to you!

I know you'd love the Webb workshop. i've never talked to anyone who didn't.

I think the biggest mistake people make when they go to a workshop is that they feel compelled to turn out a finished painting...Go instead with an open mind and don't try to turn out anything but creativity.When you get home, you can take what you learned and paint a "picture" with your new technique. While in class, push the envelope and do what the teacher says...even if you turn out distasterous messes. I am always so amused when see fellow students in a workshop painting exactly what they always have.

..."If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got."
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Zoe
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 6:41 pm:   Print Post

I found a list of all Webb's upcoming workshops. He appears to be having one in Upstate New York come summer. Perhaps I'll be able to get to this one.

Thanks.
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Zoe
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 4:55 pm:   Print Post

Thanks, Suzy. I'm in NYC - and not likely to go to Florida for a workshop. I was interested in something closer to home.
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Suzy Toronto
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 4:04 pm:   Print Post

Yeah, I do have his contact He doesn't teach regular classes...only workshops. I think he is doing one in Sarasota...where are you...what part of the country?
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Zoe
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 9:10 am:   Print Post

Suzy, you are the one that "turned me" onto Webb. Do you know any way of reaching him directly for classes. I know he's down in Pittsburgh (and I go regularly as my daughter lives down there) but wouldn't know how to contact him.

Thanks - again!
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Suzy Toronto
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 8:41 am:   Print Post

Glad you liked Frank Webbs class. I believe Frank is truely a master educator. I learned more in one workshop from him than I did in all my other workshops combined. Not that what he taught was anything new, just that the way he presented it, a light bulb went turned on in my head. I finally got it!

Both my fihe art and commercial work improved significantly. I've retaken the workshop again with him and learned just as much the second time. I think he is great.
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Zoe
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 7:30 am:   Print Post

Thanks, Eugene, it will be awhile before I can take a workshop; too many life issues keep interfering but I value your opinion and your work so I take what you say about the workshop seriously.

I do however like much of what I've seen of Powers portrait work. He doesn't seem to do many colourful landscapes.

Glad you enjoyed Webb.
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Eugene
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 7:11 am:   Print Post

Zoe-- Don't let my feelings keep you from taking a
Powers workshop. A lot of students loved it. But
he teaches mostly content and very little
technique. His work is nearly monocromatic and
rather sketchy, so if you like more colorful,
finished paintings, he may not be for you. Also
you will be working from models, both clothed and
nude. Few if any landscapes or still life.
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Ben
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 3:11 pm:   Print Post

just curious: who is "she"?
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sarita
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 1:18 pm:   Print Post

Hey all,

Let me tell you all about my first workshop.
The setting was an old fish house converted to an awesome art gallery along with smaller shops run by local artists. Hence, the name of the place
'Fish House Art Gallery'. Our tables were set up
in this huge open but covered area overlooking
a marina on the water. Very nice - but oooh so cold!! The weather was sunny but the wind was biting.
She is a super artist and I really enjoy her work, along with her diverse subject matter.

She is a self taught professional artist and a working mom of three. I learned the proper way of laying down a wash, but there were no
enlightining techniques or special color mixes or
theories.

She basically let everyone paint what they wanted.
But was quick to offer help when anyone was struggling.
She laughed, when I told her that I have so much to learn but I've exhausted the local libraries on watercolor books.
The following is her sage advice:

1.You are your own best teacher and critic.
2.When a painting becomes work, stop and put it
away for another day.
3.Watercolor should always be a pleasure, its the nature of the medium.
4.Don't concentrate on one area of the painting, fill in the whole paper - your values will read better.
5. I hate YUPO and Arches!!
6. Sometimes opaque color can save your painting.
7. Paint, Paint, Paint.

But more importantly was her open door policy,
anytime I have a problem or question about a painting - stop by and she'll be glad to help.

One more thing - I don't think I'm cut out for
workshops. I'm exhausted...........
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Zoe
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 5:16 am:   Print Post

Curious, Eugene, what you didn't like about Powers workshop. I had been thinking of that very one but couldn't make it. Thanks.
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Eugene
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 6:20 pm:   Print Post

I've just returned from two weeks of workshops at
Myrtle Beach (Springmaid). First week with Alex
Powers was a disappointment, I just don't agree
with his thinking. Some students loved him, others
didn't. I was one of the others.
The second week was with Frank Webb, who I thought
brought out the best in all of us. He's very
understanding and is a great teacher. Gives
wonderful demos. A real learning experience.
Accommodations and food and studios at Sprngmaid
are the best I've ever had--- and at one
reasonable all-inclusive price. And so many
exciting artists to meet and share with. I had a
wonderful time!
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Suzy T.
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 7:34 am:   Print Post

Hey Sarita, it was nice to meet you too.Be sure to tell us all about your workshop.

Aloha, Suz
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Garydoc (Garydoc)
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 3:18 pm:   Print Post

Chris & Sarita,
Thanks, I'll follow up on these. Anybody know about anything this year late summer or fall in Pasco, Pinellas, Hillsb, or Manatee-Sarasota?
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midnight_baseball
Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 10:21 pm:   Print Post

SARITA: i find it is useful for me to take notes during the demos. many things the artist will say as they work are excellent sage advice. also, if you are going to work on your own stuff (not just replicate the demo) then try to get your thumbnail designs and sketches done the night before - it really saves time - that you it doesn't take too much thinking/setup time or staring at a blank watercolor paper for too long before you're ready to paint!

GARYDOC: ART CENTER SARASOTA has been hosting some great workshops. much of this workshop season is complete, but if interested, keep checking or call for the latest breaking info.

http://www.artsarasota.org/workshops.htm

i've attended and thoroughly enjoyed workshops by frank webb, diane maxey and frank francese

regards,
chris!
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sarita
Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 9:43 am:   Print Post

Thanks for the sage advice. I will keep an open mind and just have fun.

For GaryDoc -

Met a wonderful artist at ArtiGras this year.
Her name is Elaine Hahn. A friend and I were
talking to her about a workshop in the summer.

She lives in Holiday, Florida and since her
schedule is quiet in the summer months she just
said e-mail her with our request.

Her website is www.elainehahnart.com

Let me know! Let's make sure we schedule early in the summer. You know the "killer hurricane
season" will be upon us before we know it.
God I hope not!!!!!
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victoria
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 6:39 pm:   Print Post

The most important thing to rememer is that you are
there to learn and do ask any question that you need
an answer to. Even if you are the only one who seems
to need the answer (which most likely you won't be) go
ahead and ask it.

Don't compare yourself or your paintings to others.
There will always be someone there who has years
more experience than you do and that experience will
help them turn out better looking paintings at this point
than you can.

Don't expect to turn out a masterpiece this weekend.
Remember that you are there in learning mode and that
the information that you are acquiring will have to be
utilized and integrated into what you already know
before you will begin to see the real results of this
workshop.

Let others know that you are a beginner in watercolor.
Most artist's are happy to share information with
someone who is just starting. They realize what a lot
there is for a beginner to learn about watercolor
because they have all been there themselves.

Have a great time.

Victoria
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GaryDoc
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 2:30 pm:   Print Post

Does anybody know of any workshops on the W.coast of FL this summer? I have been looking in vain!
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Raliegh
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 12:37 pm:   Print Post

Genius is one per cent inspiration and ninety nine per cent perspiration - Thomas A. Edison
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sarita
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 9:34 am:   Print Post

Hey everyone. I so excited!!! Finally I'm attending my very first workshop this weekend.
Does anyone have any tips or ideas regarding workshops? I've met with the artist several times, after going through an 'art fest marathon'
the last few months in Florida. She does beautiful work and has a great personality to match. I have the jitters because I'm still struggling with watercolors and don't want to look like a complete idiot. What can I expect when attending a workshop? Thanks all!

By the way Suzy T. it was great to finally meet you. Love "your world".

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