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Jan
Posted on Saturday, June 18, 2005 - 7:20 pm:   Print Post

I find hinging the mat to the foamboard first allows me to position the print and attach it to the foamboard easily. I am trying to find the best way to present an unmatted print inserted in a clearbag with the foamboard (cut to the framing size) so that the print does not just float around, as taping pulls the paper when removed.
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Suzy
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 6:51 am:   Print Post

I mat everything in Cresent B45 which is an off white mat...both my fine art and my commercial lines. This way, when I hang for a show, the entire booth has continutity to it.

I frame everything in my commercial line in Gold metal#15. All my fine art is framed in Gold Wood #C2254 profile.

I really like consistancy and it makes swapping out frames easy. If some some want a different mat, they can re-mat and I will sell anything unframed by request.
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marie
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 2:29 pm:   Print Post

Jimmy: after the discussions here, I stopped by my local framer
and asked her advice about what quality mat board I should be
using. She says that I should always use acid-free alpha
cellulose or, preferably, 100% rag mat board, even for
temporary use. She cited three reasons. First, mat
burn, where the area of your work that touches a non-archival
mat begins to darken, begins to occur quickly -- sometimes
within a matter of months. Second, the core of the non-archival
mats will darken and/or fade, and you may wind up spending
more money replacing mats as they deteriorate. Third, a
surprising number of customers will not allow a professional
framer to replace the original mat, claiming that the original mat
was "what the artist wanted."

Another thing I learned is that cheap mats are often referred to
as "acid neutral" or "acid free", even though they are not
archival.

From now on I plan to buy only 100% rag mats. I will tack
another $5 onto the price of my work to cover my costs.
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Jimmy
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 12:34 pm:   Print Post

I've had a really difficult time determining what is good quality matboard and what is not. Is "museum quality" board the only board one should use when matting original work? And, is there any economical way to get museum board? I've been all over the internet trying to get a decent answer to this question... It seems that everyone has a different notion of what is acceptable.
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Eric
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 8:20 am:   Print Post

I think a colored mat can look very nice and enhance the artwork. Here's a general rule of thumb that was pointed out to me and seems to work visually: If the main shape of your painting is white, then a white, or off-white mat looks best. If the main shape is dark, go with a darker colored mat.
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jandrle
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 7:57 am:   Print Post

I use slightly off white double mats with a quarter inch
differential. I use flat topped gold wood frames. If I have to
frame something that is industrial or more modern (which is
rare) I will use gold metal frames.

I order my frames, mats, foamcor and plexi from
www.floridaframes.com. I have compared costs and they beat
everyone around. I generally order more frames than I need,
usually my current favorite shapes.

It is easy then, just like a kit almost.

For prints I order mats from www.documounts.com.

When I see paintings in colored mats I wonder what the artist
was thinking. Because they bother me I guess.

Framers love all that stuff though, and I suspect it is their own
ideas of creativity that have people using so many colors and
fancy frames etc.

I also use only one color of frame so that when my work is hung
together it doesn't compete with itself. Even if the subject matter
varies.

For what it is worth... Jane
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Robert
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 7:31 am:   Print Post

I would like to know a cost effective way of framing and matting ten to twenty paintings at a whack. I tried ordering the metal frames and Jerry's single white mats (I have the acrylic "glass" custom cut at a local plastics supplier for very little money). This was very economical but looked overly minimalistic, just too plain Jane. Does anyone have any suggestions of what and where I should order precut good looking mats and also what kind of frames other than metal really look presentable. I have never gotten the hang of cutting my own mats or nailing together my own frames.
Those who have had to frame dozens of paintings at a time, what has worked best for you in terms of eye appeal while staying in budget?
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Robert
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 6:12 am:   Print Post

Is there any place one can get quantities of double mats pre-made at reasonale prices. I know Jerry's has lots of ten single mats in white and off-white for cheap, but the better mats i have not seen in a similar offering.
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Sid
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 10:31 pm:   Print Post

We all would likt to believe that customers buy our artwork
for its superior spiritual, emotional, and technical
excellence. But, let's face it, some customers buy paintings
with an eye as to whether it will fit with the decor of their
livingrooms. If that is true (of course it's true!) then white,
pale gray, or buff mats will be go with most any room/
furniture color whereas a painting with a colored mat might
clash. I know, that's a crassly commercial reason for
choosing mats, but personally, I don't want to lose any
possible sale.
That aside, I prefer double or triple white mats and
sometimes white with an appropriately colored 1/4" insert.
I am now looking into matting with heavy linen mat board
with a wood filet around the inside margin instead of a
colored mat insert. Anyone trying this?
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Suzy
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 2:37 pm:   Print Post

I mat all my prints in a barely off white (B45) cresent double mats with .5 inch setback. All of my originals are triple matted in museum cotton rag with 1 inch and .5 inch set backs respectivly.

I think for prints the acid free backing mats are Ok but for originals I like the "good stuff" Its just so thick and pretty.
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Eugene
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 2:12 pm:   Print Post

I really am not in favor of colored mats because,
as Eric says, they sometimes detract from the art.
And besides, a good painting should stand on it's
own, without any fancy matting. I don't mind a
thin second colored under mat if double matting.
Especially if there is a lot of white in the
painting. Then it helps "frame" the subject.
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victoria
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 1:55 pm:   Print Post

Eric, I think that colored mats like most everything else
can be an enhancement if done well and a distraction if
not done well.

I've always assumed that for shows and gallery
showings one of the reasons for wanting non colored
mats was to give some uniformity to the whole display.
In that situation they are correct in that colored mats
here and there would represent a distraction from the
whole experience of viewing the works displayed.

Victoria
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marie
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 12:39 pm:   Print Post

In an earlier post, Raleigh said: "Sometimes the mat was
doubled and lifted high to add shadow." I have put double mats
high above a floated piece, and it is beautifully effective without
being distracting, especially if you are using nice paper with
good deckles. What I like best is that it imparts a handmade
quality to the work. The viewer knows immediately that it is not
a giclee (not that there's anything wrong with giclees).
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marie
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 11:59 am:   Print Post

I have read that you are supposed to hinge your art to the
backing and not to the mat. Every time I try to hinge to the
backing, I have terrible trouble getting everything aligned
properly. Why are you supposed to hinge your art to the
backing? Is there a problem with hinging the art to the mat?
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Raliegh
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 11:46 am:   Print Post

When I worked in a gallery there were obvious paintings that were painted in the latest home design colors. Including the matting. The artist was obviously appealing to the decor value. I recently saw an exhibit where one artist used white mats exclusively. Sometimes the mat was doubled and lifted high to add shadow. I hope he's not upset that I steal that idea from him. His paintings stood on their own. He works in a frame shop here and I can't wait to go in and chat with him.
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marie
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 11:25 am:   Print Post

You raise some good issues, Eugene. I don't always use acid-
free mats, and, frankly, I feel a little guilty about it. I am very
careful with making sure my pigments, grounds, and papers are
archival because I figure that these elements are integral parts of
the artwork. For example, a customer cannot remove alizarin
crimson from a watercolor without destroying the art. It's
reasonably easy, however, to switch to another mat. A few
years ago someone gave me a matted drawing. When I took the
drawing to a framer, the first thing she did was to throw out the
mat and the backing. I am assuming that most people will want
to mat and frame my pieces to their own taste, and the mat that
I use for display will not be the mat that stays on the piece long
term.

I have thought about putting a small archivability chart -- for
pigments, paper, matting, and backing -- on the foamcore
backing for each piece. I think customers should know what
they are getting.

I am planning to move over to acid free foamcore and mats as
soon as I use up my current stash. I just started matting and
selling my work about 4 months ago, and I would rather learn/
practice on the cheaper materials.

As for color mats, many of my pieces are closer to wash
drawings than watercolors. I like to do double mats, with a
white top mat and a thin colored bottom mat, for my drawings.
The double mats help to define the space.
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Eric
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 11:09 am:   Print Post

For colored mats, I've heard that they are a no-no because the mat would be a distraction from the artwork. (another "rule") Hmmm...I've always thought that if the mat is distracting the viewers attention, then maybe the artwork just isn't very good.
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Eugene
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 9:48 am:   Print Post

We've had endless discussions on fugitive
pigments. I think how you handle your finished
work is of equal importance. Many of the cheaper
mat boards are faced with acid free paper but have
heavily acid core material that will turn brown
and in time will damage the art work. Equally
important is the backing material. One of the
frame catalogs I receive even gives a choice of
foam core or cardboard. Brown acid cardboard
backing can damage work in a short time. Even
foam core can be dangerous if it isn't acid free.
What you work on is important too. I once
saw a Motherwell exhibit that was done on brown
wrapping paper-- which I thought was especially
stupid.
Also I'd like to hear opinions on colored
mats. For most national shows they are a no no.
I'd like to hear other opinions on mats, etc

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