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Robert
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 5:50 am:   Print Post

Dragon's blood, according to the Metropolitan Museum of Art restoration site was " dragon's blood, a dark red palm-resin traditionally used in glazes.." It was once a standard red paint--renaissance. Maimeri's is a mix of quinacridone red and burnt sienna.
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tachee
Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 9:19 am:   Print Post

got the maimeri blu in venetian red, but also purchased about a dozen. one- dragon's blood- which i bought simply because of the name.
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Robert
Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 7:18 am:   Print Post

Are you using Maimeri Blu venetian red only or Maimeri Blu in other colors? Glad they appeal to you.
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tachee
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 6:55 pm:   Print Post

by the way robert, from your recomendation, i am using maimerblu [sp?] for the first time in this painting. yummy yummy.
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Robert
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 4:31 pm:   Print Post

Venetian red (PR101) is a great mixer for gray with cerulean and dark with pthalo or ultramarine blue--also great dark greens with pthalo green,
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Linda
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 8:47 am:   Print Post

How good I feel to have a happy and intelligent sounding return reply! Thank you.
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maidensmith
Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 8:20 am:   Print Post

Linda, thanks for all of your tips - in this and other posts. I
especially like this one and it inspires me to try this 101 red
again in a different way.
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Linda
Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 3:35 pm:   Print Post

R101 is a poetical red I also love using. For terra-cotta urns, autumn leaves, a mixer for sunset skies, this red is a lyrical soloist, and also duets extremely well with others. Intense it is, though lovely undertones show through when diluted. "Apply it as delicately as you are able," is sage advice indeed. Buy it. You too may come to sweet painterly visions using just this one color!
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LunaTiger
Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 3:41 am:   Print Post

I have 3 different venetian reds. They are great in fantasy deserts and planets and monochrome paintings.

And of course it's great for mixing.

I also use it very diluted as underpaint. -And I draw with it almost like I would draw with ink.
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edejan
Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 9:46 pm:   Print Post

My sister has 12 parrots but I don't go there often. So I use photos mostly. I'd like to start my own flock when we move to our new house. Love parrots!! Also great for using all those bright colors.
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Robert
Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 2:40 pm:   Print Post

Don't know of any brick red parrots. Do your models sit for you or do you work from photos?
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edejan
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 10:17 pm:   Print Post

It was my only red in the past when I painted in acrylics and painted landscapes. I've considered it for watercolors but since I mostly paint parrots, I've stayed with the more primary reds. I do love the color though I haven't heard anyone discuss it in years.
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marie
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 2:53 pm:   Print Post

I use venetian red occasionally, but it is not an everyday pigment
for me -- probably because I find it difficult to handle.

Sometimes, I like to use the Old Holland "Golden Barok
Red" (methin nickel). It is similar in hue and a little more saturated
and than venetian red. It's transparent, non-staining, and It tends
to play nicely with other pigments.
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Robert
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 2:29 pm:   Print Post

It is PR101, red iron oxide (rust). It bears the same relation to Cadmium red light as Burnt sienna bears to orange-- ie., it is muted, desaturated. Mixed with cerulean blue it makes celestial grays. A little dad'll do ya.
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Eric
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 1:44 pm:   Print Post

Is venetian red a "red that veers toward orange"? Or am I thinking of vermillion? Either way, I don't use it and can't remember encountering it when reading the many watercolor instruction books I've read. I agree. It's not popular, but that doesn't mean it's not good.
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Robert
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 11:31 am:   Print Post

Back in 1984 I adopted Eliot O'Hara's palette (still more or less my palette -- though i am always adding and dropping a couple of paints in addition). One component of that palette is Venetian Red. This is my most used landacape red. The trick is to treat it like you would a pthalo--a flea's pimple would be about the amt you would need--too much and it overwhelms. It is my red for figure work as well. Here's what Handprint says:
Nowadays it is not a very popular paint, and many artists consider it as the pigment of choice to paint brick buildings, which they rarely do. Yet this is the true "red earth" of artist's pigments, and is extremely effective at warming sap green and yellow mixtures, subduing intense orange or red paints, neutralizing blue and cyan paints, and producing a wonderful range of salmon, pinkish and pale flesh tints. I urge you to try it and apply it as delicately as you are able: the results may surprise you!

My question is --does anyone but me use it? I'm the only one I've ever met (but have I ever really met me?) who uses it regularly and I love it.

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