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Robert
Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 8:41 am:   Print Post

I agree--Thalo green or Thalo blue plus any yellow or earth--an infinity of greens.
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Anonymous Painter
Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 11:11 pm:   Print Post

I mix practically all my greens starting with Winsor green BS (PG 7), very rarely mix any blue with a yellow to make one.

Add Transparent yellow (PY 97) for something like sap green. Or try it with New gamboge. Add burnt sienna for evergreens. Make a dull gray-green with a bit of perm. AC, or another red. Darken any green mix with dioxazine (Winsor violet), or with a mixed (Winsor green + perm. AC) black.

For bluer greens, start with a lighter tint of Winsor green (it has a definite shift to blue from masstone to undertone -- the tint makes a great cyan with a tiny bit of phthalo blue). I doubt there's a green I can't make starting with this very useful, cheap, and powerful (but staining) pigment.
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Robert
Posted on Friday, February 3, 2006 - 10:30 pm:   Print Post

Speaking of bright yellow like Quinacrdone Gold, I love the way Holbein Permanent Yellow Deep looks and mixes. But get this, it is fugitive, Yes--even when they label it permanent, you can't trust it (if it's Holbein).
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Robert
Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 6:05 pm:   Print Post

Maimeriblu Golden Lake is still the true Quinacridone Gold.
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John Preston
Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 10:35 am:   Print Post

Daniel Smith's Q-Gold is still PO49 and they supposedly bought up the remaining supply. I tend to prefer the W&N shade though, it seems a bit yellower. I'm on my last 15ml tube...AARGH
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marie
Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 9:56 am:   Print Post

W/N's reformulated quinacridone gold is a mixture of several pigments -- nickel azo yellow and quinacridone maroon. I stocked up from the old supplies, and I haven't tried the new stuff yet.
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George
Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 9:17 am:   Print Post

Have you seen that Quinacridone Gold has been discontinued and Winsor and Newton has substituted another pigment but is holding onto the package name - Quinacridone Gold. Anyone know what the new pigment is that has been substituted for Quinacridone Gold?
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John Preston
Posted on Wednesday, February 1, 2006 - 8:19 pm:   Print Post

For a deep, rich green with a hint of olive there's nothing like Quinacridone Gold and Prussian Blue
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Robert
Posted on Wednesday, February 1, 2006 - 8:12 pm:   Print Post

I all depends upon the situation. For a distant haze of trees I might mix raw sienna and cerulean blue. For the deep dark shadopws within a juniper tree i might mix pthalo green and venetian red.
I earlier suggested Daler Rowney Gamboge Hue as a single yellow for mixing becaue that's what it seemed you were looking for -- a single yellow.
My particular palette allows me to mix greens by mixing various earth colors and yellows with pthalo green or various blues. Here are the colors I mix with these to make greens--
Maimeriblu Indian Yellow, Maimeriblu Lemon Yellow,
W/N Cad. Yellow Pale,
Maimeriblu Burnt Sienna, Raw Umber, Venetian Red, Raw Sienna , Burnt Sienna (think of all of these earths as muted yellows to red oranges)

All of these mix with Pthalo Green, Ptahlo Blue, Ultramarine Blue and Cerulean Blue to produce a vast array of greens. Some of the combos make grays. Actually the Wilcox Blue and Yellow Don't Make Green is the best single book on mixing greens or anything else.
Suggestion:
Get a spiral bound watercolor paper book and make swatchs ala wilcox of all your earths and yellows with your blues and pthalo greens.
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kimarielle
Posted on Wednesday, February 1, 2006 - 7:54 pm:   Print Post

HI- this is the botanical artist again. Mixing different greens is at the heart of what I do. Some of you landscape,still life, or plant artists- can you share some of your favorite green mixes? Robert, I think you said you do landscapes...

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