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Joanna
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Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 8:24 am:   Print Post

I use salt for texture a lot --Kosher salt is my favorite. Some examples where I use salt to create the effect of seeds in sunflowers.

Sunflower for Lisa
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Robert
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 9:44 pm:   Print Post

I have about
a dozen paints in my palette and I have familiarized myself with all brnads' offerings to find which ones I like best. Beyond that, I know nothing. I just like to gab with you guys.
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Eric
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 9:17 pm:   Print Post

I think Robert might be qualified to write a book about watercolor paints. The Handprint guy is about the only one I know of who can compare.
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Raliegh
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 6:43 pm:   Print Post

Robert has the neatest blend of science, art and music. I would guess a little melancholy. Many of the Masterspieces were created by such personalities.
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greg
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 4:18 pm:   Print Post

How do you know all of this? How many years have you been painting? great insight....ALWAYS! thanks:)
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Robert
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 4:11 pm:   Print Post

You can always check manufacturer's literature and see which paints are marked granulating. Even then, some brands tend to granulate more than others. Hardly any Maimeri granulate because they grind them so fine. The most radically granulating blue is perhaps Holbein Ultramarine Deep. Grumbacher academy ultramarine is an equally heavy granulator as well. W & N cerulean is a heavy granulator. Many of the earths, esp venetian and indian red. There is also such a thing as W and N granulating medium that you can buy to increase the effect. You may also mix a beaten egg white and an equal part of water and mix it with the paint--I've never done this, but have been told it increases granulation.
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greg
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 11:02 am:   Print Post

Robert, what are other good high granulating mixes.
I like that look for texture.
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Robert
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 10:48 am:   Print Post

Good question--I can only speculate: since all of the pigments are chemicals and are not inert, some would definately bond with such radically aggressive ions as chlorine. I don't know any specifics, but common sense (and background in science) tells me that seawater, containing oodles of various elements, might tend to chemically react with some pigments. Beyond that, I always assume salt water would give some of the salt/snow flake effect when dry.
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greg
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 10:11 am:   Print Post

will the chlorine in the table salt hurt the color or longevity by fading it? I suppose it is ok to just use a little as Tachee stated. I can see where it would look gimmicky. does it make a difference if you use high granulating pigment mix, like Burnt sienna and Manganese blue nova? will the blue granulate more? I love this mix of colors for rocks
I like the granulating pigment mixes for that effect.
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Suzy
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 7:12 am:   Print Post

I do not use salt in my fine art painting. I kinda thnk it look gimicky too. BUt salt water... I paint at the beach all the time and thats all Iuse their. I have never noticed any difference in long tern archiviing but I do notice that my granular color do grandulate more when using beach water!
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tachee
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 12:02 am:   Print Post

well duh. i just re-read your question. you do mean salts. i like to use them. you must do it in small amounts. otherwise, like robert said, it looks gimmicky. first time i used it, i got so caught up in the process of sprinkling the salt that when done, that was all you could see of the painting. great for water effects, backgrounds, or when you need just a smidge of movement. the alcohol makes an interesting swirly ring when dripped. and you can drag it thru also i use it when i am painting the symbol for lace. rock salt, i use tweezers and put just one ot two pieces. good for lichens on a close up tree sort of thing. i like the mad scientist feel in the the way i paint. i have glorious fun, the biggest satisfaction for me comes not when the painting is finished, but in the act of doing. but i guess that is the same for all of us.
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tachee
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 8:59 pm:   Print Post

greg, do you mean using salts on a painting? or do you really mean salt water? i do use salts [table, rock, margarita] i also use isopropo alcohol [rubbing alcohol?]. you get different effects with each of the above. but wait. maybe you do mean salt water.
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Robert
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 7:39 pm:   Print Post

Sale is a typo--salt instead
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Robert
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 7:39 pm:   Print Post

By the way--sale is often used to represent snow flakes and I have also heard of alchol used to create odd swirly effects. Keep asking questions, Greg. It's what we are all here for.
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Robert
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 7:36 pm:   Print Post

Greg--it is totally unrealistic to expect people to always peruse the "archives." In m,ost discussion groups the discussion is always current. Besides, you might get different answers if you start a new discussion. Trust me, we aren't often going to all follow you back to 2002 and see if anyone has posted anything new. I think salt is one of those experimental items that might be fun to try for you. Like any such thing, it can become gimmicky if over used.
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greg
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 11:40 am:   Print Post

sorry....I see back in 2000 this was discussed.
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greg
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 11:38 am:   Print Post

do any of you use this? Have you ever painted with salt water? will it have any effect? Any other interesting effects by throwing something in during the drying process? something that will stain like a coffee ground? any type of salt better than another?

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