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Robert
Posted on Friday, March 3, 2006 - 12:43 pm:   Print Post

OOOh I meant a #12 Kolinsky, not a 12 inch. A 12 inch kolinsky would cost the same as a villa in St. Tropex!
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Robert
Posted on Friday, March 3, 2006 - 12:42 pm:   Print Post

Eric--I took a workshop from Mel Stabin and he did his entire five landsapes with a 12" Kolinsky. Granted, I have a video where he lays in his washes with a 2" flat, but he can do it with a round too. I don't think a sky, for instance, looks as smooth when done with a round as with a big flat, but it can look very painterly, showing lots of brushstokes. I like the idea of relying on a single brush. It has the appeal of simplicity--same as having a limited palette. I think it's just one of those psychological ploys we use to have our own personal rituals--rituals which free us to paint.
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Eric
Posted on Friday, March 3, 2006 - 8:47 am:   Print Post

Robert, are you only going to do portraits? I'm not sure that just one brush (number 16)will do everything for landscapes. But then, maybe I'm wrong.

To me, a 2" brush is absolutely necessary to paint in a bold and direct style when painting a full size sheet. (22" x 30")
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Robert
Posted on Friday, March 3, 2006 - 7:28 am:   Print Post

Well, the 2 inch wash is not for me, I've decided. I am thinking about getting a Raphael #16 Kolinsjy round after seeing Ted Nuttal use one to great results--he did an entire portrait with one, from the background washes to the eyelashes! I love the idea of simplifying to one brush.
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Robert
Posted on Thursday, March 2, 2006 - 7:14 am:   Print Post

I think you've outted him, Sid.
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Sid
Posted on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 - 11:36 pm:   Print Post

Could "Anonymous Sponge Guy" really be Sponge Bob
Square Pants??
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Sid
Posted on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 - 11:35 pm:   Print Post

I use a 2" hake brush for wetting the paper, painting
background washes, painting skies, etc.. Why nibble away
at the sky in a full sheet watercolor with a 1" brush??

I also use the 2" hake brush for textural details like shrubs,
trees, bark, rocks. It's suprising what you can do with the
corner of a big brush. Look at some of the work by Ron
Ranson, and British watercolorist. He calls one of his books
"Big Brush Watercolor".

However, to be consistent with my earlier posts, one can
paint with any brush, sponge, fingers, twigs, he or she
wants if it pleases them.
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Eric
Posted on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 - 1:01 pm:   Print Post

Maybe the Anonymous sponge guy is only talking about wetting the paper. I can't imagine painting with a sponge, except maybe for foliage or certain special effects.
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Lloyd the lurker
Posted on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 - 12:17 pm:   Print Post

I doubt all of these workshop presenters referenced in the original post (if we are sticking to the context of why the 2" brush q. was asked in the first place) could paint "50% to 75%" of their paintings with a sponge! One would assume that the workshop presenters referenced actually paint more than the inital H20 paper wetting wash with the 2 "brush. They seem to be requiring it as a primary painting tool. I have seen a couple of videos in which the artist used such a brush for the entire painting. (Tony Van Hasselt etc). In that context, do any of you have any thoughts?
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Eugene
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 6:24 pm:   Print Post

Anon Painter.. I can't imagine substituting a sponge for a wash
brush. How do you lay a wash with a sponge? My largest wash
brush is 1 1/2 ", but I seldom paint larger than 1/2 sheet.
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Anon #61.03
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 5:53 pm:   Print Post

Gadszunheit!
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Dake
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 5:29 pm:   Print Post

Hake
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marie
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 9:26 pm:   Print Post

I have some 2" brushes which I use from time to time, but I have never been able to get accustomed to them except for architecture/buildings.

My favorite is a Utrecht "skywash." I'm not sure what it is made of; I have always presumed it's some sort of mix. It's black and holds lots of water, but it's more course and stiff than squirrel hair.

The pure synthetics don't hold enough water for my liking.
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Anonymous Painter
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 8:28 pm:   Print Post

If you need/want the capacity of a 2" brush, I think a sponge is a lot more versatile, as well as cheaper.

I have a 1" flat da Vinci (sable), which I love, but I find I tend to use it mostly to apply clear water, rather than color. I also have a number of natural sponges, in various sizes. Used to use an actual 2" housepainter's brush (cheap, harsh bristles), useful to make paper damp & break down/redistribute surface sizing (before painting, iow). Haven't used it for ages.

When replenishing my supply of brushes recently, I ordered a 2" soft goat's hair brush -- which I've used exactly once.

In short, I wouldn't bother. Hope you enjoy your workshops.
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Eric
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 1:02 pm:   Print Post

I use the 2" wash brush for at least half of the painting. I start with a big brush, then progressively use smaller brushes as I go along. Is the handle just an aesthetic thing?

I don't know of any 2" brushes that have a round handle but there are a few 1 1/2" that have the round handle. I own two 1 1/2" brushes; both Golden Fleece, one round handled and the other flat handled. I never use the flat handled 1 1/2". The round handled one is used a lot.
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Robert
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 11:56 am:   Print Post

I would love to hear anyone's take on how useful they find 2" wash brushes (and if so, whcih is a favorite). The reason I am asking this is that I do not use a 2" wash brush and really hate the paddle handle (the house painter brush look). However, almost every artist I respect not only uses them, but seems to do the first 50 - 75 % of the painting with them. I like to use a 1" aquarelle.

Everytime I see 2" wash brushe used it looks to me like the artist is painting trim in a kitchen.

I am not a big fan of smooth washes--I like painterliness. Still, I have signed up for two workshops and both artists list a 2" wash as a prime requisite. (I usually ignore workshop supply lists). But I may break down and try a 2" wash.

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