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Eugene
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Username: Eugene

Post Number: 49
Registered: 8-2006
Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 7:45 pm:   Print Post

I often have to force myseli to paint, but after I start, the juices begin to flow. Just don't give up---- that's too easy!
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A. Bill
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 12:23 pm:   Print Post

If in a huge rut, I get out a favorite book and paint the lessons. It is low challenge and gets me painting.
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Garydoc
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Username: Garydoc

Post Number: 28
Registered: 8-2006
Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 11:06 am:   Print Post

This truly is my biggest problem, getting down to art. The creative juices don't flow without some pictorial stimulus and I just don't get going. I don't have an answer, just a dilemma!
Gary
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Marie
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Username: Marie

Post Number: 22
Registered: 8-2006
Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 10:51 am:   Print Post

For me, that's usually a sign of getting into a rut. Changing direction a little can help. Try a different size paper or a different texture of paper. Try a different subject. Try someting that is out of your comfort zone.

The important thing is to keep painting! Even doodling on scrap paper is helpful.
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Rekha
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Username: Rekha

Post Number: 31
Registered: 8-2006
Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 10:02 am:   Print Post

I don't seem to be able to pick up the brush the past few days. How do you pick yourself up when you are feeling down (only in terms of being unable to put your heart in painting)?
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Linda
Posted on Tuesday, November 6, 2001 - 7:20 pm:   Print Post

BEST ADVICE

I'd ever heard: "Go ahead and do it. After I began to paint, I wish I had begun many, many years before I did. I regret missing those years." This was said by that elder guy on the public television channel who watercolors, the guy with the Scottish accent. It was this statement that started me after a lifetime of waiting. I feel the same way, as well.

I've heard recently: "Even 15 minutes a day!" This was said by a person on the website www.paintwatercolors.com as the answer to the question, what is the best advice for improving in watercolor? The response was to pick up a brush and do "even 15 minutes a day." It is true, I know it, and is the best advice I've heard since the above!
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feather
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2001 - 1:06 am:   Print Post

"The only people you should try to get even with are those that help you."

(Sorry, I don't remember who wrote this.)
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Amy
Posted on Tuesday, May 8, 2001 - 7:19 pm:   Print Post

I loved the quote..I am dealing with the local
art critic ( newspaper) who only covers "cutting
edge" art. Realism doesn't get covered, only
"funky" stuff.
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Carrie Stuart Parks
Posted on Tuesday, May 8, 2001 - 6:00 pm:   Print Post

Hi Anonymous,
Welcome to our forum. We are all "live", we just take a day or two or more to talk with each other. This is a very friendly, cheerful, helpful group of artists with a rip snortin' sense of humor (check out some of the topics...) We do like to know a name to go with the comments-even if it is not your real name but one you want to go by. I'm considering changing my name to "Picasso" ......... I think my art might sell for more......
-Best wishes,
Carrie Parks
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Anonymous
Posted on Tuesday, May 8, 2001 - 5:41 pm:   Print Post

Hi is this an ongoing live chat or just comments by artists? New to this particular chat. THanks.
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Geeky2
Posted on Thursday, May 3, 2001 - 6:20 pm:   Print Post

Procrastination seems to be my major talent, so I'm writing here. I am real good at buying supplies, too. Reading about everyone's else's problems and accomplishments; trying to find that one piece of supply that will make my masterpiece; looking up in a book or art magazine some thought or idea I want to do; working out a plan for a painting but getting tired of it before I ever put paint to paper,,,,,,taking more photos,,,,
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dazey
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2001 - 6:13 am:   Print Post

Carrie, touche'. That quote by Al Capp is a great one. And your point about a clean house being a sign of a sick mind. right on.
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D.Finley
Posted on Monday, April 9, 2001 - 9:37 am:   Print Post

Speaking of studios-mine is the "Birthing /DeathRoom" in the center of our 1857 Italianate VictorianLOL!!!!!!!!! How many artists can claim THAT one-HAHAHAHAHAHA!
I've been in basements,sleeping porches(really nice bank of 8 windows),to my current room mentioned above. I do miss the natural light that I had in the sleeping porch,but it's nice to not feel "banished" to some hole in the house! I've worked in some "holes" doing newspaper ads- complete with exhaust fumes and......COCKROACHES-YUCK!! It's a wonder anything made any sense that came out of thereLOL!

Thankfully,my husband found three period windows and installed them near the ceiling in my studio! Now I have access to REAL air and light while maintaining the integrity of the house.

Any other stories out there?:) Deb
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RMoore
Posted on Monday, April 9, 2001 - 8:18 am:   Print Post

Maybe we need to distinguish between "abstraction" and art that is just plain weird and/or done for shock value. Anyone interested in a new discussion?
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Geeky2
Posted on Sunday, April 8, 2001 - 7:08 pm:   Print Post

Not only are we messy, we love to talk about it.
:)
Jean
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Carrie Stuart Parks
Posted on Sunday, April 8, 2001 - 4:15 pm:   Print Post

Hi and thank! We are a pretty cheerful group. It's because we have several profound philosophies:

-Cleanliness is next to impossible
-A clean house is the sign of a sick mind
-Creative minds are rarely tidy

...and for those who have ever wandered into a modern art gallery, stared at the "art" of, say, toothpaste squirted over a toilet seat, and felt really lost:

"Abstract art: a product of the untalented sold by the unprincipled to the utterly bewildered."
-Al Capp

Happy Palm Sunday.
-Carrie
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JodyRay
Posted on Saturday, April 7, 2001 - 9:07 pm:   Print Post

Hi all.
Been reading you folks for almost a year. You guys are so friendly and helpful. I sent for Carries book. So great! Thank you.

I've come to the conclusion that most artist are messy. But there is a reason. We are creative, so when we get an idea we attack it. Sound good?
Works for me. An artist friend has lots of glass in her front room and she hates to dust. I told her as long as she keeps her fingers off, it looks kind of frosty. Go with the flow.
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Oma
Posted on Friday, April 6, 2001 - 9:25 am:   Print Post

Please, Carrie Stuart Parks, let me know how one can purchase your book and what the price is. I thought I had asked this previously but perhaps neglected to carry out my good intentions and you know where that will get me! My e-mail is: leonard@cybermesa.com. Hope to hear from you soon. Thelma Leonard
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Carrie Stuart Parks
Posted on Thursday, April 5, 2001 - 12:13 pm:   Print Post

Hi all,
I have a 20 x 30' building next to our house with four rooms for a studio. The first room is mine, about 10 x 20'. As you walk in the door, there is an L shaped counter on the left, wood stove, sculpture and drawing table on the right. The next room is about 10 x 10' with a kitchen counter, sink, raised bathtub for large stretching of watercolor paper and rack for holding drying art. There is a closet for storage off this room. The last 10 x 20' room is Ricks for his art. Sounds great, right? Now picture boxes, paints, art propped up on end against every available surface, slides, slide sorters, books, portfolios and everything else scattered around. ugh, what a mess!

One side of our (the finished side) basement has our computers, matting table and shrink wrap table. Frames, glass and mats along with student teaching materials are on the other side of the basement (unfinished side). Overlay all this with boxes, books, papers, cut mats, art art art art art and you have our working area.

Anyone want to clean house????????????
-Carrie
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LPMullins
Posted on Tuesday, April 3, 2001 - 9:20 am:   Print Post

WELCOME, CONCON and other newcomers!

I guess an attic studio would be at a disadvantage as far as being convenient...and I didn't think about having to haul things up & down the stairs to it. Plus you would have the heat in the summer & cold in the winter to contend with even more I suppose.

I don't think I have a short attention span, but I know I do get distracted easily, and also if there is something else on my mind, which seems to be the case a lot these days! We are in the midst of life-changing events right now.

My easel is set up right next to a window. The room is small, but I can back away from it if I want. So what's my excuse now? ha ha!

I'm like concon... I'm starting to think that my painting career might just become a retirement thing. There are just too many other things going on that need attention like the bills, necessary shopping, errands, housework & WORK. Not to mention other activities I like to do that have been put on hold indefinitely...like gardening & other types of artwork & crafts. There are just not enough hours in a day!

Perhaps if I chose a medium that didn't require as much time to complete a work from beginning to completion I would get a lot more work done, but that would be extremely difficult to do right now...it would be like changing horses in the middle of a stream...since I work on commission. Plus I like the look of acrylics. Or maybe it's the subject with all the minute exacting detailing... (portraits) At any rate, I can't seem to get the work out on a timely basis. Especially when I can't seem to get back to it.

My studio tends to become a "catch-all" place, too...maybe it's a bit TOO convenient! ha!
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Geeky2-VA
Posted on Tuesday, April 3, 2001 - 7:59 am:   Print Post

concon and other newcomers:
Fear and procrastination subject has always been a friendly, chatty group. So join right in! I think every artist is somewhat interested in another's studio and painting habits. We get some good ideas sometimes, too.
Jean
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Geeky2-VA
Posted on Tuesday, April 3, 2001 - 7:51 am:   Print Post

My painting table is under the window, then at the left corner, a drawing table, and at the right corner of the table, a rolling workspace that can be another easel setup or to cut mats. So it is a u-shaped space, with my computer across on the opposite wall. I like to be able to walk around during the day and see what I'm working on. I just don't seem to work on anything for long periods of time or to completion. There is really no excuse not to paint; I just don't seem to really stay with it, although I'm studying or planning all the time.
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anneengw
Posted on Tuesday, April 3, 2001 - 1:38 am:   Print Post

I was beginning to feel all cooped up in my studio too. An artist friend I went to see gave me a couple pointers that have changed my outlook and now I don't feel so trapped!

First, have the painting area(table)face a window--mine is beneath the window(I'm in the basement). Second, leave enough space behind you so that you can back up far enough from your work to see it from father away.

Just those 2 things made a world of difference! (Of course, now I can't use that as an excuse not to paint!)
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Geeky2-VA
Posted on Monday, April 2, 2001 - 11:12 pm:   Print Post

Welcome:
Well,,,I retired early-health/stress, and I'm not sure I really paint much more. I can find too many other busy-bee things to do, it seems. Probably some of you are a tad more disciplined than I am. (I hope you are!)My painting space is becoming more crowded than the open space I had planned.
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carol
Posted on Monday, April 2, 2001 - 9:56 pm:   Print Post

concon....yup just jump right in. the artists are friendly and helpful. welcome! at one time someone wrote a note about waiting to retire but i can't remember where it is on the tree, but it sure hit home.
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concon
Posted on Monday, April 2, 2001 - 9:14 pm:   Print Post

This is my very first chat conversation. What do you do? Just jump in. My art room is a dressing room with an ironing board, a desk with a computer and a book case. I also have distractions and procrastinations like paying bills, cleaning the kitchen, answering telephone calls, etc. I draw things off to paint, start it and take too long to create a finished, satisfying piece of artwork. I find myself saying..."when I retire"...
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Geeky2-VA
Posted on Monday, April 2, 2001 - 4:55 pm:   Print Post

Chris, I feel the same way. I had once thought of building a studio over the double garage, but didn't want to be lugging things up and down stairs. We did fix a little studio for me on the side of the garage, and I wouldn't go out there at night, so I just paint inside, and am planning on using my deck this summer for oils and acrylics.
Jean
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Chris
Posted on Monday, April 2, 2001 - 4:29 pm:   Print Post

Dear LP, I had an attic studio once and it seemed so far away and easy to never get there. Out of sight, out of mind? So eventually I added a room on the first floor (the attic was 3rd) and I love it! I can slip in even if I have 1 or 2 hours to work. Can you convert a room or enclose a porch ? Maybe it would not make any difference to you, but from my experience it did. Just a thought for what it's worth!
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Geeky2-VA
Posted on Monday, April 2, 2001 - 11:32 am:   Print Post

I also seem to be impatient or bored after awhile, and I'm not sure if that is just a learning thing. I try to do things I'm really interested in, but after planning, I seem to lose the spark. Just have to paint whether I feel like it or not. Maybe I have a short attention span....
Jean
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LPMullins
Posted on Monday, April 2, 2001 - 7:16 am:   Print Post

I would absolutely LOVE an attic studio! Think of skylights & the lofty view! A quiet secluded place to work & think. I would love something like that. I wish our attic was big enough!

I think a big part of my procrastination in painting is having a comfortable working environment & good lighting. I'm working on it & have a fairly comfortable work area now with better lighting but I still find myself procrastinating! I think I get distracted too easily & see too many other things around me that need to get done that take priority...the plants need watering, the bills need to get paid, my tummy tells me it's lunchtime, etc. Things that can't wait. I guess I need a schedule!
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Geeky2-VA
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2001 - 5:30 pm:   Print Post

Hi jandrle: I live in the Richmond, VA area. That's what I'm afraid of, TRAFFIC! I drive to TX, but the traffic is not bad at all, once you get away from VA and 81. I hope 81 North isn't as bad with all the trucks and so forth.
Jean
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jandrle
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2001 - 12:54 pm:   Print Post

I too live in Virginia, Mt. Vernon to be exact. There is traffic almost everywhere on the east coast. Good luck in avoiding it.
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Geeky2
Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2001 - 11:11 pm:   Print Post

Thank you Grey Owl: I'm thinking about a trip to see some Northen scenery, but didn't care to run into too much big city traffic.
Jean
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Grey Owl
Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2001 - 6:48 pm:   Print Post

I think the best way to go from VA to NY is to take 81N. You don't hit any really bad cities that way. It looks like you'd pick up 88 to go over to Albany. I've never done that, but have traveled 81 many times. Another possibility would be to take 81N to 84 E to Taconic State Parkway North. This would be a lot longer, but the Taconic is very picturesque south of Albany.
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Geeky2-VA
Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2001 - 2:00 pm:   Print Post

Anyone:
I would like to know the best way (less traffic) to drive from the Central VA area to upper or central New York (near Albany). Do any of you know the best route and if possible to avoid larger cities.
Or,,,is it better to take a train, etc.?
I'd appreciate information from anyone who has driven this. Thanks.
Jean
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carol
Posted on Monday, March 26, 2001 - 11:17 pm:   Print Post

kukana: that is so interesting. a blonde shirley valentine. i can picture that!
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Geeky2-VA
Posted on Monday, March 26, 2001 - 9:55 pm:   Print Post

Oh, Kukana, I think Shirley Valentine is pretty. Lucky you! I can identify with her, in some ways, but don't look like her. What a vacation, huh?
Jean
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Kukana
Posted on Monday, March 26, 2001 - 9:54 am:   Print Post

Carol and Geeky, if you've seen the movie Shirly Valentine you know know what I look like. Believe it or not I am the spitting image of "Shirley" only I have blonde hair and dress very funky!. I have strangers walk up and tell me all the time. My husband even teases me and calls me Shirley! even the girls in my aerobic class call me shirley. For better or worse, Im her double!
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Geeky2-VA
Posted on Monday, March 26, 2001 - 12:58 am:   Print Post

Hi Carol, Just finished watching Shirley Valentine movie about Greece, and emailed you. Sounds like you had a good mini. Going to try and get out one day to take photos or sketch. I'm a chicken in cold weather!
Geeky Jean
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carol
Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2001 - 10:46 pm:   Print Post

hi geeky2: i'm back from my mini vacation. laura was right... we went though her neck of the woods on thurs. and what a mix of weather. the roads were a mess. canada was great and there was 4-5 feet of snow. it was a real winter wonderland. i did a few sketches and some paintings in my head, but mostly x-c skiing filled the days.
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Geeky2-VA
Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2001 - 10:32 pm:   Print Post

Hi LP,,,well, the attic is big enough, but unfinished. Husband would have a heart attack if I wanted to do any more remodeling. (grin) Good thought, though. It's my fault--I do tend to "spread out" where ever I work.
Geeky Jean
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LPMullins
Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2001 - 9:02 pm:   Print Post

Geeky........is your attic big enough for a studio???
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Geeky2-VA
Posted on Friday, March 23, 2001 - 12:06 am:   Print Post

What's worse,,,,my studio seems to be turning into a spare bedroom for family visitors. By the time I spread out, I need to put things away again. Not that I'd want less visitors--I love my family too much,,,but there has to be a better way. My drawing table has to be moved, etc.
I can't seem to come up with an answer on this. Maybe I could put visitors into the attic.......
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LPMullins
Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2001 - 10:02 pm:   Print Post

Oh... is THAT why my house & studio are always in such a shambles... I am not alone!?!?!?
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Geeky2-VA
Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2001 - 9:06 pm:   Print Post

I do spend (re waste) time straightening/putting things away/ etc. Elves drag it all out again.
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Kukana
Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2001 - 7:42 pm:   Print Post

I was going to brag and make you all feel bad by telling you all how I just dug out my studio and that it was spotlessly clean. That was last night. This afternonn it once again looks like a cyclone hit it. Oh well, we all know that creative people are never tidy! Why waste time cleaning when there is so many things to create?
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Geeky2-VA
Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2001 - 4:55 pm:   Print Post

Carrie: What is tidy? There's a topic, but are we sure we want to go there? haha.
Jean
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Laura 36
Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2001 - 11:15 am:   Print Post

Hey Carrie- you're not alone in finding your homestead under the great white wonder. Here in the East we are getting slosh today. Yup-slosh. Whatever it decides to be at whatever time it's falling from the sky and sticking in a very unwelcome sloshy manner. Maybe we could talk about censorship. Seems like these days anything goes. I have a problem taking my nine year old to a museum or show and trying to explain something that I think is rude and maybe unethical. This should cause someone to tickle their keyboard.

I remember when I was in school and we had to read "Slaughterhouse Five". "Catch 22" didn't find too many parents smiling either. My father and I walked out of a Margaret Atwood gathering when I was 16 because of the language. I think personally that there has to be a sense of taste and what is the reason behind what you are doing anyway? Is it for attention? To cause controversy? Then you did your job well.
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apiper
Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2001 - 10:02 am:   Print Post

They all sound good to me. Lets add `most difficult painting'.
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Carrie Stuart Parks
Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2001 - 9:20 am:   Print Post

Hi Gal,
Spring break???? for and artist????Chuckle, snort, giggle. Ha! I don't know where everybody else might be, but I'm here trying to find my house under a winter's worth of mess. Maybe we need to start a new thread on something bound to get a response....funding for the arts? Censurship in the arts? Is is possible to be an artist and tidy at the same time????
-Carrie
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Geeky2-VA
Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2001 - 7:32 am:   Print Post

Now, don't tell me you all are on spring break!!
Everyone has disappeared!
Jean
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Geeky2
Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2000 - 2:23 pm:   Print Post

Happy Holidays and Happy painting to everyone, especially the Fear & Procrastination group from last summer and fall. We had a great time. See you online again, I hope.
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carol
Posted on Saturday, December 23, 2000 - 1:09 pm:   Print Post

merry christmas and a happy new year to geeky 2,kukana, and every one on the disscussion board.a special thank you to cheap joe and the crew for having this board and making all this chatter possible.
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Carrie Stuart Parks
Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 5:04 pm:   Print Post

I hope you all had a Merry Christmas and will have a safe new year. We should make our New Years Resolution here on our favorite Procrastination posting.

I WILL stop messing around with piddly things and paint more this year. I will paint 10% more paintings than last year (now I gotta look up last year's total, sigh...)

There. I've started with a resolution. Come on, Geeky2, Kukana, Carol and all, your turn.
-Carrie
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Kukana
Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 6:13 pm:   Print Post

My goal for 2001 is to paint more and figure out a way to get Carrie to return my calls!!! (Love ya Carrie.!) Kukana
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geeky2
Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 7:19 pm:   Print Post

Well......since I haven't been painting much...my goal is surely to paint more. Watercolor, along with personal things, has thrown me for a loop, but I think I have figured out where I'd like to go with it. Keep your fingers & toes crossed for me.
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Geeky2
Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 7:23 pm:   Print Post

By now, you know I always think of something else, as soon as I post my message!
Another goal for us might be to keep this board really hopping. It would be a shame to lose touch with so many wonderful artists, and this board is friendlier than many.
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apiper
Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 9:25 pm:   Print Post

I agree about keeping touch via this board. I have learned so much and identified with so many.
My resolution is to get in better touch with my artistic instincts and stretch myself more in my reach for the stars.
Cheers and best wishes to you all.
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jandrle
Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2000 - 2:44 pm:   Print Post

My new years resolution is to manage my time better... I paint a lot and am April artist of the month in the cooperative gallery I belong to. Preparing for that is a tall order and will require organization. Spreading myself too thin is a problem. Christmas was horrible, I took too many commissions, two that were way to challenging and made the final delivery the Wed. before. It became very stressful timewise! I used every minute I had, just didn't have enough...
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carol
Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2000 - 2:23 pm:   Print Post

i also have trouble with time management.it seems that i waste a great deal of time trying to find things i've tucked away and then need them in a hurry,but can't.so #1 i need to get organized. next, when i have a little time to paint, i go in my studio and putter around, read art books, look at photos until my time is gone, and the painting has gotten nowhere. i think i have to many paintings rolling around in my head to do, that when i get time, i don't know where to start. i don't have a problem with subject matter or inspiration, unless i have too much of both and that's causing me to want to do everything the minute i start to paint.#2 one thing at a time, baby steps.#3 i'm going to attempt to be accepted in our state watercolor society. have to submit 6 slides. last,#4 i have been asked to do a show in a local gallery in july. there is a 2-3 year waiting list to show there so i want to make sure i have ample paintings to hang. all this should take up the year. whew, i get exhausted thinking about it.
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fink
Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2000 - 4:18 pm:   Print Post

Wow it sounds like everyone has some good goals. Mine is just to start painting again. I have not done much since August - except for a few small things that really didn't turn out like I had seen them in my mind when I started. I would like to take off another direction but just haven't found that direction yet.

Has anyone ever contacted an art rep that would sell your stuff? I have been pondering that since I really hate the process of selling.
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apiper
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2000 - 12:05 pm:   Print Post

fink,
Check with Carrie about the art rep. She probably has knowledge here.
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Anonymous
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2000 - 6:04 pm:   Print Post

Fink, I'm sure there are good reps out there. But, my experience was not a good one. Just think long and hard about giving this rep a commission of your work along with giving the gallery a commission, so that you get the least. If that is what you, the artist, feel you deserve, then go with a rep.
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Laura36
Posted on Tuesday, January 2, 2001 - 8:52 am:   Print Post

A New year's resolution for me would be to paint more, yes. But I really need to save money. I end up spending too much on books and supplies that I don't need or use. Not that books and supplies are bad things, it's just that I'm always looking for a magical answer to painting when the only answer is to just do it. I would like to travel and so need to save and not wallow in the immediacy of buying something.
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LPMullins
Posted on Monday, February 19, 2001 - 1:29 pm:   Print Post

I don't really believe in New Year's Resolutions per se... Like my dad told me, "If there's something you think needs to be improved, you should be working on that all along & not wait til New Year's to start..." I think he had a good point there! Anyway... I guess if I had a New Year's Resolution, it would be to GET ORGANIZED!!! I tend to waste a lot of my time trying to get everything together and find a good place to work on them.. I'm just not set up the way I like yet. Still working on a place that "feels" right & get the lighting I need etc. I have orders to do piling up & not getting them done as timely as I would like / need to. So I'm in the process of setting up my studio to get things done in a more timely fashion and as comfortable as possible. Once I get things set up the way I want/like them, I feel that I will be able to get the work done much better!

I also have a tendency to get side-tracked too easily and procrastinate. I need to work on that, too!
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chriscoose
Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 9:50 am:   Print Post

Painting in the studio is lonely and can get very technical. It sometimes feels like work and I forget how I got involved in art in the first place. My antidote is to go to a life studies group as often as I can. I'm in the midst of other artists, with a compelling subject right in front of me and I usually bring nothing but charcoal and newsprint. I am immediatly reminded of the pleasure. That experience makes opening the door to the studio much easier.
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D.Finley
Posted on Wednesday, February 28, 2001 - 7:44 am:   Print Post

Well Folks, it's almost March,but feels like January in Upstate NY!!!!!

My procrastination is more in the marketing area...can anybody relate? Painting murals is different than on canvas in that it doesn't move from where you paint it!!
I advertise and give out cards,but ultimately, SOMEBODY needs to order one of these things.Ironically,getting work motivates me,but if I do nothing to GET work,I'm not motivated...what a "catch 22"! I can start to ? my abilities,but once I have work,I feel GREAT!!!!
Thank God,I have some jobs lined-up for this Spring.
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Laura36
Posted on Wednesday, February 28, 2001 - 2:18 pm:   Print Post

D. Finley-
I can totally relate to your dilemma. I too live in Upstate NY- how far upstate are you? I live and work in Glens Falls and just rented studio space that now I must somehow pay for. I do have a few commissions lined up- two murals in fact. They are different and engaging at the same time.

Marketing is my hang up too-but I have sent information to the local newspaper, and had one article printed already. I got one of my mural commissions from that article. I am looking into the internet for selling and marketing. I also belong to three art groups that have three very different audiences. Philanthropy doesn't hurt either. I try to involve myself in fundraisers and anything that promotes art. If I am asked to donate a work of art to a fundraiser I jump at the chance, because I get free publicity. I don't have to give away my favorite item either.

I also like to paint outdoors, and often go to the park near my home. I usually draw a lot of attention, and since I don't mind painting in front of others I have a fun time and more people get to know who I am. No one is going to come looking for me, especially if they don't know I exist. I have a lot of determination and discipline, and this doesn't mean that I am the next Leonardo DaVinci, it just means I am determined and driven and that is the beginning of success.
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D.Finley
Posted on Thursday, March 1, 2001 - 8:10 am:   Print Post

Hi Laura,
Thanks for the reply. I live in a rural area outside Rochester. I am interested in the "Press Release" stuff. A mural I did @ Noyse Hospital in Dansville was written about in the paper and even on cable tv to my surprise!!! Ironically,friends and family told me of these things because I didn't see them-LOL.
I'm getting exposure through local shops,(a mural in a florist shop for free),Boy Scouts, goiing into school for "Career Day",etc. If I had to support myself, I'd be more motivated....kids' schedules,various Town meetings,on and on tend to distract me,so I go in "spurts" of time where I'm ready to take-on the world!!! My husband and I are working on a brochure to send out with pictures,resume,the whole bit.--Kind of fun!
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Maurice Bosse
Posted on Friday, March 2, 2001 - 2:42 pm:   Print Post

Can anyone tell me be best way to mix colors. I'm using oils and have a great deal of difficulty learning how to get colors from mixing other colors. Is there a favored book -- tried and true -- on methods of mixing colors?
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RMoore
Posted on Friday, March 2, 2001 - 5:37 pm:   Print Post

I know his book on watercolor pigments has fallen into disfavor, but I found Wilcox'x book "Blue and Yellow Don't Make Green" to be the best I ever read on color mixing, and it applies to all media. Once I understood the idea of "color bias" the rest was a snap.
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apiper
Posted on Friday, March 2, 2001 - 8:08 pm:   Print Post

I agree
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Kukana
Posted on Saturday, March 3, 2001 - 8:12 pm:   Print Post

I love Jeanne Dobie's, "Making Colors Sing" You can even get a good used copy on www.abebooks.com
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LPMullins
Posted on Sunday, March 4, 2001 - 11:55 am:   Print Post

Hi, Laura!
I need to take "motivation" lessons from you! haha! I'm interested in doing murals, too. I have't done the first one yet, but I may have one order for one this spring. I haven't advertised or anything yet. I kind of have my hands full with portraits right now.
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Laura36
Posted on Monday, March 5, 2001 - 2:59 pm:   Print Post

Hi LPMullins-
Well, maybe we could trade portrait lessons for motivation lessons. There's nothing like a desperate need to make money to motivate me. I just love having a place in which to work and create. I used to paint in my kitchen on a counter high enough for me, and when I was done I had to put everything away. Now, I just wash my brushes, lay them out and lock the studio door. This is an exciting concept for me.
I actually have two murals to do now. One is 6'high and 30' (yes-thirty) long. I hope the owner of the place is understanding if I take forever. The other mural is 7' high and 12' long. A little more my size. Today we are getting hammered with oodles of snow, so i'm going home. Catch ya later.
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LPMullins
Posted on Wednesday, March 7, 2001 - 10:32 am:   Print Post

Hi, Laura!

It's good to meet you! I've been doing portraits since June & still getting orders from people! I can't seem to paint fast enough. I have visions of having my own studio and being able to make some good money with my artwork. I can do other things beside portraits, but that seems to be my forte right now. I'm real excited about getting into murals, too. So any info you could give me would be very much appreciated!
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Laura36
Posted on Wednesday, March 7, 2001 - 1:11 pm:   Print Post

Hi LP
I'm not sure how much I can pass on about murals, this is truly an adventure for me. My challenge is to recreate a street outside of the building where the mural will be. Inside the building will a a small eatery. The street scene needs to be turn of the century. My problem is not the composition or layout, it is reference material. I found one book at the local library with turn-of-the-century photos in it. I will be contacting an individual soon to look at more pictures. The buildings have reamined somewhat the same since that time, but with a few cosmetic changes. I will be using interior latex paint, and probably larger brushes than I am used to. As I work and make mistakes, I will be glad to pass on what you should not do.
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apiper
Posted on Wednesday, March 7, 2001 - 9:03 pm:   Print Post

Check out a local museum. They may have old photo's they will permit you to use for reference material. Perhaps they will photocopy them for you. Sounds like a neat project!
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Laura36
Posted on Thursday, March 8, 2001 - 7:11 am:   Print Post

Thanks apiper-I'll do just that. We have a museum here called The Hyde which was the art collection of the Pryne family. They should have some old photos and other reference materials.
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LPMullins
Posted on Sunday, March 11, 2001 - 7:56 pm:   Print Post

Libraries also have reference material. Sounds like a really neat & interesting project! I'm sure in painting murals you have a wide variety of different things to do... no two being alike! Sounds pretty adventurous!

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