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  Eugene Advanced Member Username: Eugene Post Number: 137 Registered: 8-2006 |
I think it’s too bad that Handprint is regarded as the ultimate authority. I use paints that I like and handle well for me , regardless of brand. I do my own sunlight windowsill tests for permanency. If they don’t fade in direct sunlight after 6 months, they’re good enough for me. But if you're into chemical content, etc. (I'm not) I'm sure it's helpful. | ||
Bill Unregistered guest |
Oh--it was raw sienna--used honey and has a very nice color--neutralizes other colors gently. It handles exceptionally well. I may try sennlier yellow and cendrous blue . I read handprints neg review of sennellier but it was based upon the fact that they have several fugitive colors (which are designated NOT rated for lightfastness, ie fugitive). I find that odd for handprint because it praises Holbein which in detailed analysis handprint points out uses fugitve pigments and calls them permanent. Go fiugure. handprint's scientific analysis is great but his more generalized opinions are often bewildering. | ||
SZ Unregistered guest |
Wholeheartedly agree on that W&N Series 7 brush, but after doing a few tests, ala Drollere, I have to say overall W&N artists quality paints really stand up against Smith, Sennelier, Dale-Rowney, a few Schmincke and some MaimeriBlue (all artist quality). While I love Daniel Smith's colour line, some of these dry on the palette and crumble up; one of the recent Maimeri colours I bought has almost no pigment load (one of the reds) and the D-R FUB I have doesn't compare favourably with other FUBs or UBs. Of course all of this is "subjective."  I'll post after I talk to Natural Pigment! | ||
Jay Unregistered guest |
Interesting. I'll be curious as to what they will tell you as a cure or workaround. & & & I used to think of W&N as just THE benchmark for w/c products - the 'Old Reliable'. But declining quality in their brush line (esp. the vaunted Ser.7) and learning more about some of the paints they marketed for so long did a lot for pushing that overall concept off the table, tho I still consider their Artist's W/C paint line as pretty reliable, quality-wise. I used to buy nothing but W&N paints....but reality caught up with my wallet! ~8) /Jay | ||
SZ Unregistered guest |
Well I heard back from Natural Pigments by email, but I'll have to call them as adding medium or more water just isn't the answer. Thanks. And I remember having one tube of Sennelier, a purple, and not finding it to my liking. As much as I love colour, and experimenting with different brands, after doing some tests out here (more time, more leisure), I'd probably vote for W&N for consistency. Jm2cents! | ||
Whitewatercolor Intermediate Member Username: Whitewatercolor Post Number: 90 Registered: 10-2006 |
What color did you get? Where did you buy it from (the Sennelier)? I think I'd like to try more of their colors. I bought a tube of cad red light and really like it. It seems to be more concentrated than other brands and it doesn't dry up the same. Westerman paints with them. | ||
Bill Unregistered guest |
Since we are on obscure or otherwise hardly used brands, I just picked up a tube of Sennelier watercolor after reading Spackleman's book "Wet on wet"--great books. The sennelier is really special--she says it's her most use tube. | ||
Rekha Advanced Member Username: Rekha Post Number: 125 Registered: 8-2006 |
You can use watercolor medium from Natural Pigments http://www.naturalpigments.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=510-5508 or Kalish's magic watercolor wakeup. They both have glycerine, honey, gum arabic etc. | ||
SZ Unregistered guest |
Thanks, Jay, I sent Natural Pigments an email asking for their support. They are good guys, I understand, so I'll probably get good advice. Take care, SZ | ||
Jay Unregistered guest |
I think gum arabic is pretty much the de facto vehicle for w/c pigments, & a bit of ox gall as a wetting agent should help it 'accept' water better, if needed. You could also call the company (find: Google "Natural Pigments LLC") and get recommendations straight from the horse's mouth. They might even appreciate consumer input about the (perceived) problem - & who knows, maybe even 'reward' you for it! /Jay | ||
SZ Unregistered guest |
Hi - I bought a few tubes of watercolour by Natural Pigments. They had a special and I thought it worth trying them. Well, here in the SW, it is very dry, and even today with temperatures at 0-10oF, the paint is dry on the palette and dry coming out of the tube. It just doesn't have the moisture content of some of the other paint I've been able to purchase here. So, the question is: can I reconstitute these with gum? Or is there anything else that might help with their "dry" quality. Any suggestions appreciated. And happy holidays to all. |
