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Kisha
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Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 8:16 pm:   Print Post

I have been discussing with you out of a mutual love of O'Hara and a genuine desire to be helpful. I don't think you get how confused/confusing you have been. That said---life's too short to devote time to unraveling such stuff. Adios.
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Rekha
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Username: Rekha

Post Number: 311
Registered: 8-2006
Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 3:41 pm:   Print Post

Kisha, it was not a verbal quote from O'Hara; he's not alive - it was from his book. At the time I quoted it I did not know the existence of the illustration else the question would not have been posed. It is upto you whether you respond or not, but when you do make statements like "Much better O'Hara than these very old books by O'Hara you are reading" I begin to wonder whether you did have sight of any of O'Hara's books.
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Kisha
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Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 2:05 pm:   Print Post

Rekha --my comment was based solely on your parameters. Let me refresh your memory (paraphrased):
1.You quoted a verbal statement from O'Hara and asked our take on what it meant.
2. I tried my best to explain what I thought the words you quoted meant--because that is what you asked for,
3. You then came back and said you couldn't
visualize the words.
4. I responded that that is the problem with descriptive art words that don't have accompanying pictures. Now why would i assume you had no helpful pictures? Because you said you couldn't visualize the words!
5. Then you responded "You are not totally accurate, Kisha, and you should qualify your very emphatic statements you make from time to time. "
And showed pictures that allowed you to visualize the inital words.

My questions to you are
a. Why did you ask in the first place if you already had a visual aid?
b. Why should I respond to you in the future in you are going to turn things around so nonsensically.

I'm done. (In all senses )
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Rekha
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Username: Rekha

Post Number: 309
Registered: 8-2006
Posted on Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 1:51 pm:   Print Post

You are not totally accurate, Kisha, and you should qualify your very emphatic statements you make from time to time.

I have been reading several books concurrently and found an illustration in making the brush behave by the very same author which makes it quite easy to understand. Here it is

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kisha
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Posted on Friday, April 27, 2007 - 4:08 pm:   Print Post

That's the problem with art books that don't illustrate everything with a picture.
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Rekha
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Username: Rekha

Post Number: 308
Registered: 8-2006
Posted on Friday, April 27, 2007 - 12:35 pm:   Print Post

I do have a copy of Carl Schmalz's Watercolor Lessons from Eliot O'Hara. It is good but I also like O'Hara's book. Have you read any of O'Hara's books?
I understand what was written but cannot visualise how it would appear
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Kisha
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Posted on Friday, April 27, 2007 - 11:53 am:   Print Post

I highly suggst you purchase watercolor Lessons from Eliot O'Hara by Charles Schmaltz. Much better O'Hara than these very old books by O'Hara you are reading. You won't believe how good this book is.

Re. you question--it sounds as if he is saying that the objects midway between foreground and horizon are made to look as if they are receding toward the horizon.
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Rekha
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Username: Rekha

Post Number: 307
Registered: 8-2006
Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 2:20 pm:   Print Post

Another question, this time from O'Hara's Art Teacher's primer. Can someone illustrate what he means

"...Both pictures are to be done as if they were in cubes and had fixed limits of distance - just as a frame imposes limits of width and height. The first side should be painted as nearly as possible in the values and colors seen. The second, while having the same limit of distance and nearness as the first, should show all the intermediate objects thrust back toward the limit of distance but, naturally, not beyond it

I cannot visualise how the second painting would appear
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Rekha
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Username: Rekha

Post Number: 257
Registered: 8-2006
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 10:52 am:   Print Post

OOH, what a dumb person I am. Thank you Garydoc
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Garydoc
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Username: Garydoc

Post Number: 113
Registered: 8-2006
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 10:47 am:   Print Post

Rekha, what part don't you understand? Is it the pin the tail part? (a kids game done blindfolded)
Gary
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Rekha
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Username: Rekha

Post Number: 256
Registered: 8-2006
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 9:54 am:   Print Post

I am reading Eliot O'Hara's Making Watercolor Behave. Can anyone please translate this passage he has written

__Many watercolorists have the knack of placing a dark accent - a window, boat or figure - in exactly the right spot. This often evokes the comment: "He does it by instinct, something subconscious, casual, but unerring". Those who have overheard such flattering remarks and know them to be undeserved may smile. Here is my best method for putting a figure on the spot. First make the figure or several figures in slightly different sizes on another piece of paper. Cut them out roughly with scissors and tack up the picture across the room, then "pin the tail on the donkey" in various places and with various-sized figures or groups of figures until they cannot be more satisfying as to size or position. Leave them over night if you are not sure, then either mark around them or paint them in from head and foot marks
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Rekha
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Username: Rekha

Post Number: 229
Registered: 8-2006
Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 3:54 pm:   Print Post

My take of O'Hara's Death Valley I did early last year, but of course not comparable to O'Hara



desert.jpg
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Kisha
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Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 3:37 pm:   Print Post

I just noticed it's been already linked--oops.
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Kisha
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Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 3:35 pm:   Print Post

You might find interesting this recent item with O'Hara painting:
http://www.washingtonpavilion.org/VisualArtsCenter/exhibitions/ohara.cfm
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George
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Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 10:23 pm:   Print Post

http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Original-Watercolor-Eliot-OHara-1945_W0QQitemZ260050393091QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
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George
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Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 10:15 pm:   Print Post

http://www.harmonmeekgallery.com/artists/ohara.html
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George
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Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 10:12 pm:   Print Post

http://www.telfair.org/ec/collections/collection/prints/gasunset.html
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George
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Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 10:11 pm:   Print Post

http://www.washingtonpavilion.org/VisualArtsCenter/Exhibitions/OHara.cfm
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George
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Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 10:10 pm:   Print Post

http://www.askart.com/AskART/artists/search/Search_Repeat.aspx?searchtype=IMAGES&artist=24595
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Eugene
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Username: Eugene

Post Number: 210
Registered: 8-2006
Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 6:42 pm:   Print Post

Anyone know where I can find (see) published work of Eliot O'Hara? His books are so old that they have only a few color illustrations.

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