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cabrams50
Posted on Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 12:27 pm:   Print Post

I can't live without INDIGO. It always finds it way into my work. Pair it up with Indian Yellow and Alizaron Crimson and you can get some very dynamic work!
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Kukana
Posted on Friday, August 2, 2002 - 11:43 pm:   Print Post

I just ordered a bunch of Q Gold and Q Burnt Orange just be safe. I adore both colors!
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drollere
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 2:16 pm:   Print Post

final note: ron harmon, the chief chemist at daniel smith, was kind enough to call me to reassure that DS bought up all the remaining usa inventory of quin gold, and will be able to produce the watercolor quinacridone gold "for the next 10 to 15 years." so stockpiling may not be necessary quite yet.

he says the "burnt orange" (quin red gold) is still being manufactured.
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drollere
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 11:45 am:   Print Post

the quinacridone red gold, PO48 (daniel
smith's quinacridone burnt orange) may also
shortly be discontinued, but my sources are
equivocal on that point.

i especially like that pigment as a burnt sienna
substitute, and as a component of my
"synthetic black" (PO48 plus indanthrone blue
PB60 plus phthalo green PG7), which gives a
darker color than any carbon pigment or
pigment mixture (such as neutral tint or
"indigo"), that is, it looks more intense in the
right concentrations.

the red/rubine/red violet quinacridones seem
ok.

keep in mind that i don't know how much
PO49 pigment stockpiles are on hand at DS
or W&N or how aggressively they plan to buy
up remaining world supplies. and that really
determines how much longer they can
produce the quinacridone gold "color". but, like
you, i plan to stockpile for at least two
decades' worth of painting!
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Linda
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 7:50 pm:   Print Post

Thank you, thank you drollere!!!
I'm going out to buy my quinacridone gold for a lifetime. Once I did the paint tests you recommended on your handprint.com website, and quinacridone gold was the one paint I found I would always buy no matter the price.
Thanks for the TIMELY info!
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drollere
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 10:39 am:   Print Post

i should mention that quinacridone deep gold, usually marketed as "quinacridone gold," is no longer manufactured. the reason is that the pigment manufacturers stopped making the color, and the reason they stopped making the color is that it was used primarily as an automotive color, and the auto makers don't like it anymore. i've confirmed this from two sources.

once the existing stockpiles of the quinacridone gold pigment are used up, the "color" will disappear from watercolor paint lines.
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Kukana
Posted on Friday, May 24, 2002 - 7:51 pm:   Print Post

I can't live without the Daniel Smith Quinacridone: Gold, Burnt Orange, Sienna, Rose,and Coral. I only like the Daniel Smith brand of these specific colors.
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Mike Scott
Posted on Friday, May 24, 2002 - 1:58 pm:   Print Post

John and Kukana(great painting!): Gold ochre is opaque. I've been learning to paint watercolor landscapes with the help of a few books for about a year and a half(including my "mud" phase). Most of the paints I have been using are opaque and semi-transparent, but recently I've been experimenting with more transparent colors such as the phtalos and M.Graham Quinacridones. I may add Quinacridone gold. The traditional earth colors are great for a direct approach to painting, however it seems that more depth and subtlety can be achieved with transparent glazes. Any advice on other transparent colors?
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John Preston
Posted on Friday, May 24, 2002 - 8:56 am:   Print Post

Mike,Kukana's picture( very cool style!) shows Q-Gold at about medium strength. In a thin wash it is very yellow and at full strength a tawney brown and at any strength it is never muddy. With W&N Indigo it makes a delicious deep green that is clear without looking artificial, great for the deep shade inside and underneath trees. One of those versatile colors that achieve a variety of hues.
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Kukana
Posted on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 7:59 pm:   Print Post

Thats Daniel Smith Green Gold in the foreground. Another favorite
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Kukana
Posted on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 7:56 pm:   Print Post

Gold orchre isn't transparent, is it? Quinacridone Gold is totally transparent and make everything you use it on glow. I've even taken it in a thin wash and completely covered a dead painting and it brings it to life. I lvoe it!

I've used it as the background here in this picture.

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mike scott
Posted on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 7:13 pm:   Print Post

I have not used quinacridone gold, but I like W&N gold ochre; is there a big difference between the two?
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John Preston
Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 6:13 pm:   Print Post

Yeah, Q-Gold is marvelous. I would/ could use it on a minimum trio palette.Joe, call Leonardo and tell him to make you some Q-Gold.You can call it "Tawney Port" or "Tobaccy-Spit-Stain" or something wacky.
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Kukana
Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 6:00 pm:   Print Post

I refuse to go on with out Daniel Smith Quinacridone Gold and Holbien Opera. Life would not be worth painting!!!!
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Anonymous
Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 10:37 am:   Print Post

Lately, I have been using some quinacridone colors to glaze and adjust values. It looks like they are here to stay on my palette!
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Judy3x
Posted on Monday, May 20, 2002 - 2:04 pm:   Print Post

Thanks to all of you, it looks like I am going Stateside for a month, so I can do some shopping (Oh Yes!) while I am in California. There are art shops here but the paints are pricy, I love Cheap Joes! but it is fun to browse in person. Feather had a good suggestion, any that were real disapointments?
Thanks again, JUDY JUDY JUDY
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John Preston
Posted on Monday, May 20, 2002 - 7:53 am:   Print Post

Hmmm... Cobalt and Ultramarine for sure, probably Prussian, too. The Siennas, a cool shade of yellow, lots of choices there,Burnt Umber, an Alizarin wannabe and I seem to have the Quinacridone Gold habit now. These are the non negotiable colors.
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Dake
Posted on Monday, May 20, 2002 - 3:23 am:   Print Post

Hi Judy3x, The siennas,Cad red and yellow, the Umbers, Fr Ultramne, Rose Madder Genuine( have to sacrifice permanence here), Cobalt Blue Deep, and Indigo are my essentials. Granulation and lifting properties are big factors. These pigments on Arches hot pressed(satine) or Saunders Not are heaven.
Despite many attempts to find a suitable alternative to Rose madder genuine, none exist that granulate so well.
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feather
Posted on Monday, May 20, 2002 - 12:52 am:   Print Post

Dear Judy: Welcome! Everybody eventually develops their OWN very PERSONAL palette. Asking others why they don't use certain colors is extreemly helpful, as well ask asking others what they use and why. Maybe part (2) to your question could be "what colors can you absolutely NOT live without". Me, I can't live without cad red, quin red, french ultramarine, cobalt blue, cad yellow, winsor lemon, and the earth tones rmarz listed above. Like the plague, I avoid anything that anything that doesn't get absolutely tip-top rating in lightfastness. There are a couple of books out that you might find helpful on rating watercolor paints (including brand comparisons) Hilary Page puts one out and so does Wilcox. Both are available on Amazon.com. Good Luck in your search!
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rmarz
Posted on Sunday, May 19, 2002 - 6:14 pm:   Print Post

Burnt sienna, raw sienna, and ultramarine seem to
show up in most of my paintings alnog with burnt
umber and touches of the cadmiums red, yellow, and
orange. On the other hand I just finished a
painting of a big flower arrangement that had five
different yellows in it,
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Judy3x
Posted on Sunday, May 19, 2002 - 4:16 pm:   Print Post

Hi, Let's see if I can get this posted before I get kicked out, it happens a LOT where I live. I am in the UK and am painting more often now, and was wondering, what are the colors (colours) you could not paint without. Each book I have read lists different ones, and my teacher has his favorites, so? Just wondering.
Thanks, Judy

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